need help with lineage

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Hello all, just wanted to post this bit of info becuse I know some of you guys are pretty much well schooled on lineage and I am checking my connection to them but I just want to see if indeed what I have been told is true and thier dates correct.
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? pre 13 generations chen family
Chen cha shing (1771-1853)_____________
Yang Lu Sun (1799-1872)_______________
Yang Ban Ho(1873-1892)_________________
Wu Chen Yo (1834-1902)_________________
Wu Ching Chen (1870-1942)_____________
Wei Xiao tung (1888-1984)_______________
Shyun Kwan Long (1948-present)____________
Shyun Tien Long (1955-present)__________

If you have different lineages would you please let me know. Also If you have any fact lineage before what I have for I am missing the names of 13 generations from chen seng feng I would appreciate it emensly. thank you for taking the time to answer.

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Spelling

Hey,

the more common spellings of these two names…

Wu Chen Yo (1834-1902)_________________
Wu Ching Chen (1870-1942)_____________

Would be

Wu Chuan Yu
and
Wu Jian Quan

There’s also a continual debate over who actually taught Chuan Yu. (The Wu was a later addition to seem more Han, since he was ethnic Manchu). Some people say he was taught by Yang Lu Chan, and he was listed as being taught by Yang Ban Hou for reasons of face. Other people say Yang Lu Chan just gave Chuan Yu some advice, but never really taught him, etc.

If I’m not mistaken.

Merciless is Mercy.

[This message was edited by Daniel Madar on 11-29-01 at 01:52 PM.]

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daniel

would you happen to have any factual lineage before chen cha shing? I am trying to find this out but I am having no luck. thanks

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Chen Lineage

http://marina.fortunecity.com/victory/273/atlineage.htm

Don’t know exactly how factual it is, but this has Yang’s teacher in it.

-D

Merciless is Mercy.

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Well that helped a little, it gave me 2 more pregenertations before the ones I have which are Chen Bing Wang, and Chen Wang Ting 1580-1660. Does anyone have Chen lineage before 1580 AD ?

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doesnt anyone else have anything to add to this?

I find it hard to believe that with all you lineage guys out there that no one can help me add to this list. all or any help is much appreiciated… your freind E.D

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Founder

According to a number of sites, Chen Wang Ting is effectively considered the Founder of Chen Style.

http://www.digidao.com/nhist.htm

This is a good site, as it also discusses the theoretical preceding generations.