need advice about squats

[QUOTE=bawang;1182718]what did u do to have to take a 9 month hiatus man? dam.[/QUOTE]

I gave myself rotator cuff and biceps tendonitis training to do human flags:

(not me in the pic)

Took forever to heal. I took every supplement that supposedly benefited tendonitis, did ice massage multiple times a day, weighted eccentric rehab exercises, etc. The healing process isn’t linear. There will be no change (in pain level) for weeks at a time and then one day you wake up and it’s a little better, and then it will stay at that level for weeks and then one day you wake up and it’s a little better, etc.

I couldn’t do squats during that time, either, because I couldn’t hold the bar in place without getting into a painful shoulder position.

My goal was to do a human flag on each side but I’m afraid to ever try it again.

The bizarre thing is I wasn’t even doing it often. I would attempt it one time on each side once or twice each week. You hear tendonitis and think “overuse injury.” Not always.

I grabbed the bar one day with my left hand on the bottom, went to position myself in place, and felt a pain in my shoulder.

Both the PT and the joint specialist pressed into my shoulder and said they could feel the inflammation in my biceps tendon, and the shoulder pain I was having sounded like microtears in the rotator cuff.

I’m starting back very slow at the gym. To put things in perspective, before the injury I was doing flat DB press with 100s for reps. Now I am doing 15s and 20s, for 10 reps, slowly through the entire ROM just to make sure there is absolutely no pain or discomfort whatsoever.

After each workout is a shoulder ice massage.

An ice massage is when you freeze water in a styrofoam cup and then peel the top of the cup off, holding it by the bottom, and massage the area with the ice. It works 100x better than an ice pack, which does next to nothing in my opinion.

I’m going to slowly increase the weight by 5 pounds every week or every workout until I get back up to 50 pound dumbbells (my old warmup weight). Then I will consider myself at a relatively good starting place.

Unless the only activity you plan to do at all is powerlifting, packing on 40 pounds of fat just to be able to squat is fucking retarded.

[QUOTE=wenshu;1182733]Unless the only activity you plan to do at all is powerlifting, packing on 40 pounds of fat just to be able to squat is fucking retarded.

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whay mang

i tink u jelly bro

Once again, Wenshu comes in to save the day.:rolleyes:

No one told the guy to gain 40lbs of fat for ****'s sake. But, you don’t get stronger unless you eat to get stronger. And 130lbs is tiny. He COULD stay where he is and try the whole bodybuilding diet where he gains 1lb a month and only raises his squat by 5lbs, OR he could gain some fat and get a hell of a lot stronger, and then add in conditioning if he feels like he wants to lose some bodyweight.

It isn’t that complicated. I don’t know what it is about guys wanting to have the abzorz at all times these days.

I’m going to have to side with Huckleberry on this one. If you’re goal is to get big, you have to eat big. Makes sense to me, take in more calories than you use = weight gain.

If he’s 130 and 5’9", he’s probably not going to get fat no matter what he eats.

Note: this is assuming he eats a normal diet now and weighs 130 as a result.

Is KFC and mayo considered normal?

Why do you want to spend so much time in your squats lifting? Why don’t you integrate your combat skill training and weight training as one? If you have a throwing dummp (or heavy bag), you can train firemen’s carry, single leg over head, double legs over head, … This way, you can kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/764/scarry.jpg

After all. to develop combat skill is your goal. To be strong is just to help you to reach to your goal. Your goal is still combat and not weight lifting.

because john wang, im poor and i live in an indian guys basement. i cant afford and dont have the space for a throwing dummy.

[QUOTE=bawang;1182795]because john wang, im poor and i live in an indian guys basement. i cant afford and dont have the space for a throwing dummy.[/QUOTE]

A canvas bag filled with sand (or dirt) should not cost too much. I just hate to see you spend a lot of your valuable training time and not be able to develop any useful “combat skill” out of it.

After all, your weight is still on your back. You still have to go through your squarts. The weight trainingt part stay unchange. You may just want to add your fotwork and treat your weight as your training partner.

lifting heavy weights is part of traditional kung fu, bro.

didnt you ever read the water margin? li kui can squat 300 to 500 pounds.

[QUOTE=bawang;1182795]because john wang, im poor and i live in an indian guys basement. i cant afford and dont have the space for a throwing dummy.[/QUOTE]

Why don’t you throw the indian guy around? Just saying’

Some people will pay good money to be thrown around by a skinny asian in leather chaps, just saying…

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1182804]Some people will pay good money to be thrown around by a skinny asian in leather chaps, just saying…[/QUOTE]

im not from vancouver.

also ironfist i wish you a speedy recovery man. it looks like we both had freak injuries lol.

[QUOTE=bawang;1182753]whay mang

i tink u jelly bro[/QUOTE]

Why are you wasting all this time here? 225 ain’t gonna squat itself. You don’t need advice you need a portly Japanese woman to slap you in the face before you lift and then beat you mercilessly with a rattan stick when you fail.

[QUOTE=JamesC;1182758]Once again, Wenshu comes in to save the day.:rolleyes:

No one told the guy to gain 40lbs of fat for ****'s sake. But, you don’t get stronger unless you eat to get stronger. And 130lbs is tiny. He COULD stay where he is and try the whole bodybuilding diet where he gains 1lb a month and only raises his squat by 5lbs, OR he could gain some fat and get a hell of a lot stronger, and then add in conditioning if he feels like he wants to lose some bodyweight.

It isn’t that complicated. I don’t know what it is about guys wanting to have the abzorz at all times these days.[/QUOTE]

I ain’t saving nothing, I’m talking trash. Rippetoe’s cult is nearly as bad as crossfit.

This conversation sums it up better then I ever could.

http://irongarmx.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5075&start=30950#p677130

STFU AND READ THE BOOK MOTHERFUCKER.

how much u squat

I haven’t since I started my new gig in June but before I stopped I got to singles at 295. I was ~180 at the time, ~195 now.

At 6’2" my squat has always been weak as shit while I could always just pull > 300 out of the gate.

MMA gym I train at has Olympic lifting 2x a week. I’m itching to start that up but for now boxing, wrestling and gong fu is more fun and my schedule is not very forgiving of my hobbies.

[QUOTE=bawang;1182799]lifting heavy weights is part of traditional kung fu, bro.

didnt you ever read the water margin? li kui can squat 300 to 500 pounds.[/QUOTE]
Li Kui was not number 1 fighter among those 108 guys. He was not very smart either.

One of my SC brothers who could lift a lot of weight. His arm muscle were so big that his hands couldn’t even touch his own legs. When he walked, since his arms were curve around, his posture just like a chimpanzee. We all called him “black chimpanzee”. When he wrestled, he had no skill. even a 150 lb skinny guy could throw him (he weight over 200 lb).