My what big muscles you have!

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Hey guys. I have a small problem. Well actually, it’s about 6’2" and 230lbs of muscle. For some reason or another, my wonderful and charming personality has gotten on someone else’s badside.
While I am usually not one to worry about losing a fight, this time I am. The few things that make me nervous in a fight include someone who is a LOT bigger than me, and someone who simply won’t stop until I’m dead or crippled(and comes into the fight with those very intentions). Personally, I will never stop fighting until it is physically impossible for me to do so once I have commited to the attack. But this time, I seriously wonder if I can make a dent in my opponent(s). One happens to be the school running back and his stats are above. The other is a neo-nazi psycho who would just as soon give you a curbie as a shot in the jaw. I am a little hesitant to fight these guys because, quite simply, I am not sure I have even a slim chance of winning. I simply don’t think I have the training to handle guys like this. I mean, how do you fight a guy that outweighs you by almost a hundred pounds and won’t hesitate to decorate the pavement with your insides? I have never been this nervous and I really hate it. Oh well, I’m sure nothing will happen, but geez I hate this.

As a side to this post, how many of you honestly feel that you can take an opponent who is obviously larger and meaner than you(60+lbs larger) and how would you do it?
-ZC

“The thorn pricks only those who would harm the rose.”

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remember my advice to that one kid a while ago? Cheque drops :slight_smile: You’ll win.

Either that, or bring a gun or a knife or something. Obviously, state your intention that you don’t wish to fight him, but if he insists on being a jerk, it’s better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

Iron

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Scary

Don’t bring weapons thats just asking for serious trouble even death!

My advice is to bring friends, Lots of them.

“Life’s a great adventure, mate.”
Jacko Jackson

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get good running shoes

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I’ve already done the carry weapons/looking over shoulder in paranoia deal before, and I didn’t like it. Also, it’s not that I’m going to meet them at a prearranged place/time, but that I’m worried about an impromptu fight where I get jumped or one where it “just happens”. I.e. no friends or weapons. Just me and one/two guys and things get heated.
-ZC

BTW, I already know to run away, not get into a violent situation, etc. but sometimes it’s just not possible.

“The thorn pricks only those who would harm the rose.”

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What are you doing making big enemies like that? :wink:

Seriously,
do one of three things.

  1. Go to the police
  2. Try to apologize for getting on their badside, and hopefully you all can go on your way.

…3. If you have no choice in fighting, and want to win. Cheat.
Friends, weapons, a gun.

When someone chooses option 3, there’s no going back, and you’re into serious danger not only from aggressors but the law too.
Hope you can settle it peacefully.

Take care
Ryu

“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”

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Try working on groin and knees as target areas for strikes. As well work on escapes from grabs, Headlocks and the like.

“Life’s a great adventure, mate.”
Jacko Jackson

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Ok, heres advice for what its worth.

First, no one is unbeatable. Second, forget everything about out skilling them. Generally, the idea is to initiate the fight yourself. By this, I dont mean go start the fight , but if youre cornered and you know the fights going to happen, you have to choose the moment to get it on. An old trick is to hold your hands up in the " I dont want any trouble " stance. then

then,

step forward, grab his head and pull your head as close to his as you can (thai clench) . Duck your head, keep your elbows in along you center, and get as close to his head with yours as you can, preferably head to head.If hes taller, pull the top of your head into his jaw or mouth.

Now , using your fingers to grab near his ears with one hand (remember this is going to be chaotic, and keep one arm around his neck pulling him close) shove a thumb into his eye , into his nose, across his eyes( But do NOT try the traditional eye poke) this is a mix of a grab and an eye attack, youre elbows must be bent and hold on for dear life. These guys are stronger and bigger. Bite their face too, thats how close you want to be. Overwhelm them with the high attck, because its just a set up.

You see, if your mind is right and your attack is fierce (visualize the whole thing over and over), the attack here will force them to push you away and pull back. all their attention will be up high (and be ready to eat some shots ) . NOW, ram your knee into their groin and bladder, and redouble the gouge attack to the eyes . Keep kneeing and gouging, if they pull away from you KEEP ATTACKING! If they turn away, knee them in the coccyx (base of tail bone) ,kidneys, and spine. Throw elbows to the back of the neck, go for a choke and still, use those knees!

THis might work. ITs ugly, and you will have to answer for what happens, but you might win if you initiate the attack and show no mercy or weakness. If youre really scared, this is your best bet.

Nothing is gaurenteed. You still might get ruined. You might go to jail for this. FIghting for real is ugly and should be avoided at all costs.

Learn some practical martial arts for your future.Your profile says youre in San diego, I know theres some muay thai and NHB schools there. Many here will disagree, but NHB type training will more to get you ready to fight, more quickly, than anything else.

Learn to avoid these situations in the future. I dont know what led up to this, but you do. DOnt let it happen again.

“You guys have obviously never done any real fighting if you are mocking spitting”
Spinning Backfist

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I also wanted to say that most of my opponents have been guys like you have described. I have worked and rolled with many large muscle guys, and the only way to know how well you do is to go in and do it. There’s really no other way, sadly. :slight_smile:

I hope you can settle this peacefully. Avoid those guys, don’t talk or look at them, and just go about your life with good friends, fun, etc.
If you’re worried about it, you can go to authorities, etc. It’ll probably blow over.

If you do want to carry a weapon (I do) you have to be willing to use it, and not half-assed.
This is why carrying and using a weapon is the most extreme of things to do. If you pull a knife for instance, you have to be willing to kill your opponent, not “scare” him…

I don’t like talking about this kinda thing as it seems “bad ass” fake marine crap,
but it’s true that sometimes you need to even the score against a dangerous and much bigger adversary. The police do it all the time. Mace works good too. Hell it’s called fighting smart.

However, it’s extremely dangerous.

Ryu

“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”

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Jimmy23

That was beautiful :cool:

“Life’s a great adventure, mate.”
Jacko Jackson

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mace, now you’re talkin’

get some mace or CS gas or somethin’.
of course you still gotta consider long term response i guess

___________________________________________________________________________ “I’m just trying to lull you into a genuine sense of security!”

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always have lots of pairs of running shoes with you. Make sure there are people in them too, perferably ones that weight over 250 lbs :slight_smile:

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wow prana, they’re heavy shoes!
love the idea though :slight_smile:

___________________________________________________________________________ “I’m just trying to lull you into a genuine sense of security!”

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alternatively, don’t wash your socks or feet for a very long time. When such times happens, you need only take off your shoes.

Otherwise, I hear garlic heals many illnesses. A good dose of garlic may prevent any confrontation. Unfortunately, it also makes friendly confrontation difficult

Sorry, I dont mean to be insensitive to your fear. Contemplate on this mantra many times, and you may find your troubles suddenly turns to strength.

“Om Mani Padme Hung”

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Tibetan Buddhist chant. :slight_smile: Very famous

Ryu

“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”

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Facing a larger opponent means nothing.
If one knows how to evade, then no matter how big that fist is,how fast, or how many, it does not matter, for you are not there.
Learn how to use the weight you have (dropping 90 kilograms of pressure on someone as you evade is going to down just about anyone)
Of course if you dont have time to learn how to do all this, you could just pop the bonnet of his car one night, put a hole in his fuel tank, put a 20 litre jerry can of petrol under the car, run the spark plug lead right to it. When he starts it…

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nice in theory, in real life impossible.

“You guys have obviously never done any real fighting if you are mocking spitting”
Spinning Backfist

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Jimmy, let me borrow your car and we shall see if it works :slight_smile:

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zen_celt,

How did this conflict begin?

“Bruce Leroy. That’s who!”

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Pepper spray. Stun gun. collapsible steel baton. You have a duty to defend yourself or any other non-lethal weapons.

These guys sound like they will do more than just teach you a lesson. If they are truly out to injure you, protect yourself at all costs and certainly contact the police if they start haranguing you. You have rights you know.