# More 'real' king fu (vid) **URL:** \ **Category:** Kung Fu Forum\ **Created:** [October 24, 2003, 1:51pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654 "2003-10-24T13:51:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![red5angel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/red5angel/32/219_2.png) [@red5angel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/red5angel)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/21 "2003-10-24T19:08:42Z")
I’m not sure what to say. I’m so irritated at that video at the moment it makes me sick. Do I have respect for them because they got up and fought? More then the guys who claim to be able to but don’t, is that a lot of respect? No. What is the deal with these half assed fighters getting into the ring and fighting like they have no idea what is going on? I didn’t see kungfu, I saw weak ass street brawling, which is fine if your an average idiot in a fight with another average idiot at a bar, but not a martial artist, and most certainly not a sifu, and to top it all off one who is trying to fight. I’m so disgusted I just don’t know what to say. If you’re going to fight, and if your going to compete, you need to train and you need to fight like it, not like you are sparring with the boys on a sunday afternoon at the kwoon. fukk this video has me really irritated. ---
**Author:** ![Musicalkatachmp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/musicalkatachmp/32/442_2.png) [@Musicalkatachmp](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Musicalkatachmp)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/22 "2003-10-24T19:08:49Z")
> “Lei Tai Kuoshu fighting”, I say frequently that it is a format going no where FAST Oh yeah? [http://www.freestatemartialarts.com/VideoPage.htm](http://www.freestatemartialarts.com/VideoPage.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Starchaser107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@Starchaser107](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Starchaser107)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/23 "2003-10-24T19:10:31Z")
so as not to be an @ssh0le i will say why. poor footwork zero kicking inabilty to display throwing techniques also even if they were both scared to kick and decided to stay on thier feet, thier boxing skills need great improvement. It makes the situation worse that one was called “sifu” ---
**Author:** ![Starchaser107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@Starchaser107](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Starchaser107)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/24 "2003-10-24T19:12:49Z")
it just looked ametuerish…you say they were former champions but it looks as though it was thier first time fighting. ---
**Author:** ![Musicalkatachmp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/musicalkatachmp/32/442_2.png) [@Musicalkatachmp](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Musicalkatachmp)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/25 "2003-10-24T19:13:47Z")
This is my Grandmaster’s tournament so I can’t really say what I think. So I’ll say what Ross thinks. > PROPS for fighting, but skill level is practically NON EXISTANT ---
**Author:** ![Water\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ad7895/32.png) [@Water\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Water_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/26 "2003-10-24T19:15:05Z")
> Originally posted by Musicalkatachmp > [B]Ross, > I like kuoshu b/c it allows elbows. The gloves hitting that mask suck but its still pretty fun. There were about 100 fighters this year. Yes I think both fighters in the clip were former champions. Water Dragon, What is KKM? [/B] lol at kkm asking about kkm. That was pretty funny kkm. ---
**Author:** ![Musicalkatachmp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/musicalkatachmp/32/442_2.png) [@Musicalkatachmp](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Musicalkatachmp)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/27 "2003-10-24T19:20:02Z")
LOL How did you figure it out man? ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/28 "2003-10-24T19:28:58Z")
With dial up, it will take me a year to upload those files, but I can cut to the chase real quick I assume everyone knows that “Kuoshu” is also a CLOSED EVENT. We tried to send a team in 1997, 1998 and 1999 and all we got was a million excuses and promises they’d send us applications and lost of BS. They did the same thing to Cung Le by the way… The answer why should be pretty obvious, the “champions” would get schooled by students and it would make them look real bad… Why don’t either of these champions enter San Da matches? If they want elbows, they can enter a pro match. But first I’d buy a lot of life insurance. This is pretty pathetic… ---
**Author:** ![Musicalkatachmp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/musicalkatachmp/32/442_2.png) [@Musicalkatachmp](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Musicalkatachmp)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/29 "2003-10-24T19:33:25Z")
Ross, I agree with what you say about kuoshu…but a lot of people have done it and some of them actually can fight…Julio fought one year, so did David Wiltshire. Oh I didn’t know it was a closed tournament though. I knew it was amateurs only… ---
**Author:** ![Suntzu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/suntzu/32/233_2.png) [@Suntzu](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Suntzu)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/30 "2003-10-24T19:35:55Z")
where do i start… LOL @ MP… LOL@ “Hi KKM”… LOL @ “What is KKM?”… LOL @ “I can’t really say what I think. So I’ll say what Ross thinks.”… just a few months ago sompe people was swearing the Kuoshu or touraments like it were the pinnacle of “real” kung fu… not to diss the Kuoshu event… it was a good event and i enjoy it every year… but even the “good” fights looked like… how did he say it… > street brawling, which is fine if your an average idiot in a fight with another average idiot at a bar > just that one was more brawlish than the other… so i don’t know what those with there fingers crossed expect to see from “high level” kung fu… and… > PROPS for fighting > see u at the gym later KKM 😃 ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/31 "2003-10-24T19:39:20Z")
I downloaded “reggie” and “john2” so far, nothing at all impressive… ---
**Author:** ![Musicalkatachmp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/musicalkatachmp/32/442_2.png) [@Musicalkatachmp](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Musicalkatachmp)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/32 "2003-10-24T19:39:39Z")
What the $%\*& is KKM? I figured it was someone’s initials that WD knows, but Sun Tzu seems to know what it is too…someone please tell me what it is… And does anyone know where I can get some glow in the dark weapons for our next flick? Ross I was being sarcastic about those clips…they will make that other clip look much more scientific and tactical…kinda like those really fat twins that sit on those motorcycles…so the bikes look really small ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/33 "2003-10-24T19:43:59Z")
I know Julio and Whiltshire fought in it. Whiltshire was the champion one year… but it is kind of funny that after THREE \*\*\*\* YEARS of trying, they couldn’t seem to find the application forms to send them to us, OR to Cung Le… ---
**Author:** ![Water\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ad7895/32.png) [@Water\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Water_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/34 "2003-10-24T19:58:53Z")
kkm by armbar ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/35 "2003-10-24T19:59:12Z")
Compare the “champions” of Kuo Shu to some low level kickboxing degraded san shou guys 🙂 [http://marvinperry.org/images/1Marvin.mov](http://marvinperry.org/images/1Marvin.mov) [http://marvinperry.org/images/1pope.mov](http://marvinperry.org/images/1pope.mov) [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/sanshou/ssmov2.mov](http://www.angelfire.com/ny/sanshou/ssmov2.mov) [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/sanshou/ssmov.mov](http://www.angelfire.com/ny/sanshou/ssmov.mov) ---
**Author:** ![Suntzu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/suntzu/32/233_2.png) [@Suntzu](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Suntzu)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/36 "2003-10-24T20:00:19Z")
LOL @ the signature… who are those guys in the last 2 clips… i know it from your site… but i’m too lazy to check… ---
**Author:** ![Water\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ad7895/32.png) [@Water\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Water_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 8:05pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/37 "2003-10-24T20:05:37Z")
lmao @ kkmdc’s sig! ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/38 "2003-10-24T20:10:59Z")
The last two clips are just some guys from a tournament, I found it on the web and saved it because I thought it was pretty cool. they aren’t even “champions” ---
**Author:** ![fa\_jing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee7513/32.png) [@fa\_jing](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/fa_jing)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/39 "2003-10-24T20:18:08Z")
[www.angelfire.com](http://www.angelfire.com) seems to be prohibited to every firewall known to man… ---
**Author:** ![Zbloff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/dc4da7/32.png) [@Zbloff](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Zbloff)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2003, 12:28am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654/40 "2003-10-25T00:28:39Z")
the 2 last clips It seems to be swedish guys in the 2 last clips… at least they’re yelling swedish stuff at him from ringside. not that it helped… ☹ [http://kungfu.framtid.nu/Mediabank.html](http://kungfu.framtid.nu/Mediabank.html) enjoy if you’d like some more swedish sanshou 😉 [Previous page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/more-real-king-fu-vid/23654.md?page=3)