Monkey Kung Fu Question (Tai Shing Pekwar)

Brad

I saw that you wrote that you had obatined a Tai Sheng Pek Kwar video by Chan Sau Chung.
I’m interested in the style. Which video of his did you get and what were your impressions of the video and the style? Thanks.

Tai Shing Pek Kwar

Here our the TSPK resources we carry: Continuous fist
Ditang siping fist
Nine continents staff
Willow leaf broadsword
Chan sau chung cover story
Chan Kai Leung cover story

Why don’t you write them and ask them?

RD,

Why don’t you just e-mail them and ask them yourself?

I’ve e-mailed them before and they answered me right away it was like the next day it really surprised me.Chan Kai Leung answered me himself it was a total shock.

So go to the source and find out.

jmd161:)

Just my two cents..
Intresting to point out that Lama Pai and all of tibetan styles, if I’m not mistaken, are also based on the movements of a gibbon (mixed with some crane also.)

I’ve never heard of six step monkey.

jmd161 - hi

I did e-mail them, several times, and never received a reply from them. Looking at their website they suggest that priority is given to responding to e-mails from people who buy their products and join their organization.

brad

Did you see my previous question to you in this thread?

richie

Which styles of pigua did you see, and what were they like/what were your impressions of the styles?

GeneChing

Thanks - yes, I saw your ad for the Ditang siping fist video, etc.
You have them listed under Wu Shu instead of kung fu - is this intentional? Can you tell us a little about what the video shows? Are the basic ditang exercises and fundamentals included or just the form itself?
I wonder if this video, for instance, is the same video that the Vancouver organization sells as ditang siping.

Re: jmd161 - hi

Originally posted by carly
I did e-mail them, several times, and never received a reply from them. Looking at their website they suggest that priority is given to responding to e-mails from people who buy their products and join their organization.

Hey carly,

That surprises me because when i e-mailed them he answered me right away.I know Chan Kai Leung does all the stuff on the site himself.I also noticed that there had’nt been much updates done in awhile.maybe he’s very busy if i remember right he’s also in school.I deleted the replys so i don’t remember.

jmd161:)

jmd161

Thanks for the swift reply. If only all replies were so swift:)

Hey i hear you

No problem

Sorry i could’nt be of more help to you.

jeff:)

http://www.martialinfo.com/websites/monkeykungfu/matsuda.htm

There is a lineage tree here.

please please please

someone please answer my questions:)
I’ve searched the web for all the available info and already came across Zink’s lineage chart, and the controversy between the HK school and his lineage.

[I]RD,

Why don’t you just e-mail them and ask them yourself?[/I]

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I dunno, did’n tink about it.

Actually, I was just looking around a bit, and I think this thread answered my question. Apparently the Monkey system from Tai Tzu is different than Tai Shing Pekwar. I know someone who has been exposed to both, and the report was the Tai tzu (Six Step)Monkey is an older and more sophistcated system.

It is interesting to note, that it ws probably not developed by Tai tzu masters, an d is said to date back to about 650 AD. It was apparently incorperated into the system by Chao, Kuang Yin, based on the verbal history stateing that he practices the art in addition to other stuff.

I haven’t compared yet, but my next thing it to look into any similarites between our Monkey system, and Tong Bei (White Ape)

Unfortunetly, I only have one Southern set of our Monkey system, and a modified for competiton version of part of one of our Northern sets documented. (A spectacular performance by our very own Sifu Abel I might add)

Also, it appears now that Six Step is not a descriptive of the Monkey we do, but a complete other Tai Tzu branch. There was a “,” missing on the sheet, and I have been erroniously calling our Monkey “Six Step” by accident. Tai Shing Men or tai zhu men is more acurate I think.

Think about sparring against him Ouchhhhh !!!

Originally posted by Royal Dragon
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(A spectacular performance by our very own Sifu Abel I might add)

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RD,

SifuAbel is awesome is’nt he?

I’ve seen him in action many times in the past. Really sad that he had to move to Cali:(

Although i’m very happy for him. :smiley:

jmd161:)

royal dragon

Can you tell us about what your version of monkey is like?

It’s hard to describe, I have only minimal exposuer to it. Even that is from two different Tai tzu lines all together. One is the base Southern set that has dynamic tension exercises added to it, and the other is Abel’s modified competition set.

I do know that there are 8 Southern Monkey sets, and 8 Northern Monkey sets and they are often taught after a more standard Tai Tzu system like the little 6 set Southern system, or the more well known 10 set Northern system.

Somewhere, I saw some of the Southern Monkey from tai tzu online in a video clip. The same group of clips also showed a trademark arm blocking/stiky hands twoman set, but the links never said the sets were tai Tzu. I only recognised them as such from video documentation I have on the style that originated in Taiwan.

I downloaded the footage, so if I can’t find the link I may up load it to my site and post it for you if you like.

Tai Hsing Pek War, as referred to by Gene’s links is promoted in Canada and Hong Kong (and anywhere in the world it’s practitioners live) can be found at

http://www.chinesekungfuonline.com

The style contains a lot of Shaolin flavour to be sure. At least from what I’ve seen at his site and in his articles, pictures etc etc.

Looks like good Kung Fu to me.
They offer a few programs at the site. I’m not sure if they do distance learning but the old man’s been around for a while and has many merits to his favour.

peace

Hmmmmm, I’m not so concerned about TsPkwr, but more wheather or not it had historical ties to the Tai zhu men of the Tai Tzu Chang Chuan style. It appears that they are two totally different systems.

RD-

The history of Kungfu is like the history of fire. :slight_smile:

It’s been around for a long time, it still burns and there’s new ways of lighting it as time moves forward.

peace