# Mixing external and internal martial arts?

**URL:** <https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702>\
**Category:** Taijiquan and the Internal Martial Arts\
**Created:** [July 7, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702 "2004-07-07T01:48:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Apostol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Apostol](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Apostol)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/21 "2004-07-09T22:57:51Z")

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What on earth is all this crap about?

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**Author:** ![Buddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Buddy](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Buddy)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/22 "2004-07-10T02:38:21Z")

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Pay attention!

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**Author:** ![SPJ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/spj/32/496_2.png) [@SPJ](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SPJ)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/23 "2004-07-10T02:39:29Z")

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Apostol;

Sorry about the confusions.

If you have any questions during your study, there are plenty of good people in the forum more than happy to give you some tips.

However, we are only your friends and not your “teacher”.

We can not and will not take the place of your teacher. That is immoral in the old time in Ancient China.

Study well and have fun.

🆒

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**Author:** ![CD\_Lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@CD\_Lee](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/CD_Lee)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/24 "2004-07-12T01:08:41Z")

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This is ridiculous, to waste Buddy’s time on this \*\*\*\*. Blackbelt - If Buddy told you openly that you have mis-understood his quote, then why don’t you just take it for what its worth? He said it, he clarified it, it is not a debate anylonger, only a \*\*\*\*ing contest.

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**Author:** ![Buddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Buddy](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Buddy)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/25 "2004-07-12T15:59:37Z")

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Also I think he emailed me asking something awhile ago. Didn’t seem to mind my advice then. No good deed goes unpunished.

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**Author:** ![blkbelt65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@blkbelt65](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/blkbelt65)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 10:28am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/26 "2004-07-15T10:28:31Z")

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> Originally posted by SPJ   
> [B]CD LEE;

This is ridiculous, to waste Buddy’s time on this \*\*\*\*. Blackbelt - If Buddy told you openly that you have mis-understood his quote, then why don’t you just take it for what its worth? He said it, he clarified it, it is not a debate anylonger, only a \*\*\*\*ing contest. [/B]

HAHA!!

CD, How do you talk with your Lipps so close to Buddy’s Butt???😃

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**Author:** ![gazza99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/gazza99/32/111_2.png) [@gazza99](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/gazza99)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/27 "2004-07-15T19:28:34Z")

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Mixing?

My initial response would be NO, dont mix them, however there are some arts that may be of benifit that your IMA training may not cover as comprehensively, such as groundfighting and knife work.

But I think Buddy was right when he said “Why would you want to do this? Xingyi is a great system and does not need wing chun or jeet kune do. Of course maybe you have a teacher who cannot do either justice..”

Or perhaps you dont have enough exp. in Xingyi yet, and need more basics? How long have you been training?

I would also suggest you look into other xingyi teachers in your area, particularly Wai Lun Choi - [www.liuhopafa.com](http://www.liuhopafa.com) he will definately teach you how to fight with the xingyi.

I wouldnt start looking to mix external arts with the internal ones just yet. keep looking at what different schools have to offer, and take a hard look at your own natural abilities, and training habits.

regards,

Gary R

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**Author:** ![blooming\_lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9a140/32.png) [@blooming\_lotus](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/blooming_lotus)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 4:21am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/28 "2004-07-16T04:21:17Z")

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agree…you probbly need some measure of prerequ knowledge in order to balance or you could end up doing more harm than good…

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**Author:** ![CD\_Lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@CD\_Lee](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/CD_Lee)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 5:35am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/29 "2004-07-16T05:35:10Z")

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**Author:** ![CD\_Lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@CD\_Lee](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/CD_Lee)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 5:43am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/30 "2004-07-16T05:43:34Z")

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Blackbelt\*\*\*\*\*\*\*s said:

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HAHA!!

CD, How do you talk with your Lipps so close to Buddy’s Butt???

Buddy has good information to share. We should try to learn from him and each other if possible.

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**Author:** ![blooming\_lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9a140/32.png) [@blooming\_lotus](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/blooming_lotus)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 11:00am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/31 "2004-07-16T11:00:50Z")

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pay it no mind…you get intellegent statements like that from time to time and you can spend your time arguing b\*tchfight style, or you can just continue the discussion anyway 😉

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**Author:** ![CD\_Lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@CD\_Lee](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/CD_Lee)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/32 "2004-07-16T15:21:44Z")

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You’re right Bloom. I went back and cleaned it up a bit.

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**Author:** ![blooming\_lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9a140/32.png) [@blooming\_lotus](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/blooming_lotus)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/33 "2004-07-17T03:04:55Z")

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🆒 😃

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**Author:** ![Buddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Buddy](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Buddy)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/34 "2004-07-17T04:48:38Z")

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Well he’s a coward and a jerk of f and a liar. No big.

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**Author:** ![blooming\_lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9a140/32.png) [@blooming\_lotus](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/blooming_lotus)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 10:39am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/mixing-external-and-internal-martial-arts/27702/35 "2004-07-17T10:39:30Z")

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Everyone has an opinion..youre right, No big 😛 🆒 …

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