Mildly interesting thread on jiujitsu.net

Not a troll. If you choose to take it that way, that’s your business.

BJJ vs TKD

Our boy qeysus posted there, I note.

Now, where’s Ralek…

right here.what?

hmm if its not a troll or not either way its nothing interesting , most tkd guys , 99% of them ive met can kick 15 times in 1 second , but couldnt cause the damage to hurt a fly. However there are exceptions like hwang jwang lee who killed a vietnamese knife master (also instructor for the army) in something like 7 seconds or under in a challenge match.
Also the other guy i forget his name, but he can break rocks on his elbows knees knife hand etc etc.
So there are badass tkd mofo’s out there but 90% of it is very dry

what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo

i beleave “qeySuS” is the name your looking for Wong

j/k :smiley:

Free thinkers are dangerous!

Well, like I said Wong, mildly interesting.

Its interest lies in pointing up what happens when you neglect an entire range of fighting, nothing more.

I don’t particularly care for bomb’s attitude, myself.

merry about takedowns, theres a couple of diff ways to execute them if you wanna be technically correct you dont just go for the legs , its all about things like if his legs are like this you place your weight like this.
could you post a web site that shows the differences please…
or explain them … thanks

what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo

WONGSIFU…go for the search under FREESTYLE WRESTLING and GRECO ROMAN WRESTLING…once again to counter leg takedowns is to sprawl then control the opponents head…in standup clinches u’ll do some pummelling and u can frustrate and get out of a clinch. The single attacks like elbow to the spine and interception kick punches to the face are too unrealistic…u have to have perfect accuracy, timing and power to do this. It can happen RENZO GRACIE was KO by an interception punch from DAN HENDERSON by 9 out of 10 a grappler will fient his way in. Only sprawling can save u.

A

Goodness Wong! That’s a HUGE question. There are as many takedowns and variations of same as there are strikes!

You’re making me think :slight_smile:

Let me write something big, find a few links and I’ll post it in a seperate thread.

How’s that sound?

I’ll leave you with this, however;

There are three basic categories of takedowns:

Throws, leg attacks, and “other”. :slight_smile:

I’ll post more soon. Soon meaning several hours, but I’ll get back to you!!

I agree with LEGEND. In order to prevent a takedown from a sigle or double leg…sprawl. This is kinda hard to explain, but I’ll try…I also try to twist my body (using Chinese kung-fu redirection) and end up behind the guy. From there I place my weight on him, legs splayed in a sprawl. I can then pummel the back of his head from there, though I usually go for a rear choke (since it is only sparring)

Doesn’t work all the time, but then we do other techniques too…

<hr>
If ya ain’t got the skills, I will take you out!

Wong,

Here’s a sprawl.

Kurt Angle Sprawling

This is a particularly deep sprawl, but amply demonstrates the importance of legs back and hips out of the way.

ugh i killed it , about throws its ok no need to detail it, my gf is a black belt in jujitsu and we went to do a refresher course, i never practised a breakfall in my life before this, 4 hours into this session ive been thrown 789 times in at least 23 different ways and my balls are just slapping away at the inside of my thigh …
:eek:
the rest is history.

what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo

ive seen those pics on sprawling before crazy stuff , im actually trying to see how takedowns are applied so that i can draw my own conclusions in different scenarios, how a takedown would be applied on a cat stance or if someone goes into 7* or cross stance whilst the takedown is occuring what would happen.
but forget that im just trying to see the mechanics mainly what makes someone fall forwards backwards etc…

what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo

Depends on your opponent lead leg…for example…for a grappler to shoot…if u’re lead leg is matched with his lead leg…then he’ll go for a single…if it’s unmatched lead leg…he’ll go for a double…if it’s squared…then he can shoot sticking his head between your legs and using his shoulders to lock your shin…at the same time…pulling your ankles to trip u up! These are leg shoots…then there’s the mid level shoots to the body and then upper body shoots to the head…GOD!

A

It’s just so funny because it’s obvious that the TKD guy never even knew what he was getting into, he said that the BJJ guy “used a very clever method” to take him down, as far as i know a double leg takedown is the most basic one there is, grab his legs and pull.

Free thinkers are dangerous!

its no acomplishment to take out a tkd fighter,

thats like fighting a retarded kid. Or a cripple.

Who that studies and an art with actual techniques can’t beat up a tkd fighter? No roots, flicky kicks, the secret to defeating them is stepping forward. If you can really kick too, they are fuct. Their kicking isn’t even as advanced as many northern chinese styles. What exactly is so devestating about tkd kicking? The complete lack of root? The quadricep kick? The shuffle? hahahhaha.

seriously though, this is like making faces at the blind, there is no sport to it.

I have an imposter using a period “Ralek.”

I have no periods in my name. I have had a lot of work to do and have been off the forums. I am not Bomb.

I going to have to start reading a lot of posts to catch up on what i’ve missed.

Brazilian jiujitsu is superior.

Ralek!

Welcome back!!!

I knew it couldn’t have been you!

yeah Ralek, sort out this imposter…

“You’re Good Kid Real Good,But As Long As I’m Arround You’ll Always Be Second Best See”.

What imposter,
I know it’s just Ralek’s alter-ego, posing as an imposter in order to let his true feelings out. It’s ok man. We won’t make fun if you. Just drop the period, and tell us the truth :wink:

As for SifuStabbingash’s remarks. Man I thought respect was a big part of being a sifu :stuck_out_tongue: I understand your need to bash TKD, perhaps you can someday look beyond the days as a kid when you were jumped by a gang of TKD hoodlums. As for the actual match, though. The TKD guy was apparently a 2nd degree black belt, and the BJJ guy was a white belt (under a year of training). That’s not exactly taking advantage of an unskilled opponent. The BJJ guy went into the match wary of the TKD guy’s kicks, but the TKD guy had no knowledge (or respect for that matter) of the BJJ guy’s grappling skills.

You don’t have to be a grappler to defeat a grappler, but you sure have to know the grappler’s game if you don’t want to end up like a “grappling dummy” flopping around, just handing the guy superior positioning and submissions.

Jaguar Wong
The 6th Deadly Venom!

[i]Jaguar’s Wife (To “Judo” Gene Lebell): “Excuse me, my friend (Tigerstyle) wants to know if we can take a picture of you choking him.”
Gene LeBell (in a gravely voice): “If he don’t mind, I don’t mind.”

  • actual event from DragonFest 1999[/i]