Mens' Violence "Violence"

My response to the thread in question.

“By saying people put themselves in a situation that they will be attacked/ or possible attacked is wrong and blamming.”

I disagree with this. The only reason I do is because this can be taken to the extreme too easily. There very well is “right” ways of being aware, knowing your environment, etc.
The lion analogy is quite silly both ways because if the person avoided the lion pit all together the “attack” is for the most part neutralized.
This is not to say victims of violence are at fault of their attacks. I very much agree with Erica that it is the ATTACKERS who should be blamed for those actions. Regardless.
Yet at the same time we live in a world where men are NOT equal. Sad as that is. People need to take responsibility for their actions. But realistically, that won’t always happen.
If I am aware that there is a neo nazi bar in a particular area, and I walk in with certain clothing, attitude, that I know will get me into trouble (even though it wouldn’t with just about everyone else on the planet) and they beat the living hell out of me… well they are disgusting, they are the ones at fault for the attack, and they are the ones who are without a doubt “WRONG” for their beliefs and what they did… But… I’m an idiot for not taking responsibility for my own actions. Regardless if I “should” be free to do what I want… our world doesn’t work like that. I actually feel telling women that they NEEDN’T be aware of getting drunk at frat parties, where they go at night, etc. is actually very dangerous, not to mention highly irresponsible to what is a very real evil in our world. Doesn’t matter if the “lions” should have been tame. In reality they weren’t.

Having said all that, I want to reinerate that I very much agree with Erica on almost all her points. The “rape culture” we hear about is NOT just in the US. You can see it in many other countries as well.
Media and movies, TV, DOES portray women in a very bad light most of the time. We have films where kidnapping, beating, tieing up, women is supposed to be seen as “funny”, “cute”,
“cool” or other such things. To me it’s really disgusting, and is a major anger to me.
I HOPE … that a lot of people starty seeing that kind of thing as disrespectul and digusting.

As far as the training… I agree for the most part again with Erica. I’ve got more to say, but it’s late and I’m too tired
LOL

So I’ll call it a night.

Ryu


I have to get to bed now. I’m tired, and my work is throwing me a going away party tomorrow.

Ryu

Ryu, you’re just trying to impress Erica in the hope of getting a root! :wink:

Seriously, though, your post was excellent. The key point?

The world should be nice, but it ain’t. If you don’t take that into account then you’re an idiot that will have to live with some pretty serious consequences.