# Marc Laimon on Royce Gracie's BJJ - It's actually sh\*\*.
**URL:** https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467
**Category:** Mixed Martial Arts
**Tags:** bjj, royce-gracie, lineage-disputes
**Created:** [May 23, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467 "2008-05-23T03:35:38Z")
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### Author:  [@kungfufan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kungfufan)
#### Post date: [May 23, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/1 "2008-05-23T03:35:38Z")
[http://mmayou.com/news-and-exclusive-interviews-with-mmayou/37-fighters/173-marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-jiu-jitsu-its-actually-sht](http://mmayou.com/news-and-exclusive-interviews-with-mmayou/37-fighters/173-marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-jiu-jitsu-its-actually-sht)
This is going to start some waves in the BJJ community.
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### Author:  [@BM2](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/BM2)
#### Post date: [May 23, 2008, 4:47am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/2 "2008-05-23T04:47:51Z")
He has said it before.
B.J. Penn flew Pablo Popovitch in to roll with last month. That’s a Gracie connection.
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### Author:  [@Three\_Harmonies](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Three_Harmonies)
#### Post date: [May 23, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/3 "2008-05-23T17:29:38Z")
No link bro.
How was Pablo bro?
Nothing new here. Laimon is a douche from all looks! I think he is attention starved or something. Always needing attention. I have heard not so flattering things about him at various tourneys!
But in all fairness the Gracies are the only ones totally enamored with “Gracie JJ.” They had to call it “Gracie” afterall!
Jake 🆒
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### Author:  [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)
#### Post date: [May 23, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/4 "2008-05-23T18:03:27Z")
I have always preferred the Carlson line to the Helio line.
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### Author:  [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)
#### Post date: [May 23, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/5 "2008-05-23T19:53:06Z")
1. Marc is a notorious prick
2. Marc is a notorious prrik who had a falling out with Royce and the Gracie family
3. People who haven’t seen the first UFC’s and watch them now probably would feel Royce was doing “simple stuff”… GUESS WHAT? SIMPLE STUFF WINS MATCHES
Even today, with all the professional athletes, high level training, big money in the sport, the basics are still king
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### Author:  [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)
#### Post date: [May 23, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/6 "2008-05-23T19:55:26Z")
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;863212]1. Marc is a notorious prick
1. Marc is a notorious prrik who had a falling out with Royce and the Gracie family
2. People who haven’t seen the first UFC’s and watch them now probably would feel Royce was doing “simple stuff”… GUESS WHAT? SIMPLE STUFF WINS MATCHES
Even today, with all the professional athletes, high level training, big money in the sport, the basics are still king[/QUOTE]
The gracies bring on themselves at times, you know that.
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### Author:  [@kungfufan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kungfufan)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2008, 5:00am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/7 "2008-05-24T05:00:32Z")
[QUOTE=Three Harmonies;863179]No link bro.
How was Pablo bro?
Nothing new here. Laimon is a douche from all looks! I think he is attention starved or something. Always needing attention. I have heard not so flattering things about him at various tourneys!
But in all fairness the Gracies are the only ones totally enamored with “Gracie JJ.” They had to call it “Gracie” afterall!
Jake 🆒[/QUOTE]
Sorry, their site keeps crashing. It should be good now. Can I post the whole interview in the future in case that happens?
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### Author:  [@kungfufan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kungfufan)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2008, 5:03am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/8 "2008-05-24T05:03:49Z")
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;863212]1. Marc is a notorious prick
1. Marc is a notorious prrik who had a falling out with Royce and the Gracie family
2. People who haven’t seen the first UFC’s and watch them now probably would feel Royce was doing “simple stuff”… GUESS WHAT? SIMPLE STUFF WINS MATCHES
Even today, with all the professional athletes, high level training, big money in the sport, the basics are still king[/QUOTE]
Someone once told me that all advanced stuff is just doing basics really fast.
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### Author:  [@David\_Jamieson](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/David_Jamieson)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/9 "2008-05-24T12:01:46Z")
[QUOTE=kungfufan;863273]Someone once told me that all advanced stuff is just doing basics really fast.[/QUOTE]
and accurately with correct structure and with optimum power issuance … 🙂
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### Author:  [@kungfufan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kungfufan)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/10 "2008-05-24T20:15:05Z")
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;863291]and accurately with correct structure and with optimum power issuance … :)[/QUOTE]
He did not say all that 🙂
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### Author:  [@wiz\_cool\_c](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/wiz_cool_c)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/11 "2008-05-29T10:38:45Z")
If you keep fighting into advanced age you’re going to get your butt kicked sooner or later. I think that’s kinda a cheap shot he took at Royce. At least Royce had the gutts to get in there and fight, that’s all that matters.
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### Author:  [@kungfufan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kungfufan)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/12 "2008-05-29T21:27:00Z")
[QUOTE=wiz cool c;864023]If you keep fighting into advanced age you’re going to get your butt kicked sooner or later. I think that’s kinda a cheap shot he took at Royce. At least Royce had the gutts to get in there and fight, that’s all that matters.[/QUOTE]
I agree, Royce was FAR beyond his prime when he took on Hughes.
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### Author:  [@Water\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Water_Dragon)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/13 "2008-05-30T02:19:54Z")
[QUOTE=sanjuro\_ronin;863184]I have always preferred the Carlson line to the Helio line.[/QUOTE]
I always end up under Carlson guys. I don’t do it on purpose, just dumb luck I guess.
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### Author:  [@Three\_Harmonies](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Three_Harmonies)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/14 "2008-05-30T15:22:17Z")
It is commong knowledge that when Royce did the first UFC’s, that it was Helio’s words that they put in the worst Gracie to compete to show that even the worst at BJJ could beat the “best” in the world!
Jake 🆒
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### Author:  [@Becca](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Becca)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/15 "2008-06-04T00:23:56Z")
[QUOTE=kungfufan;863273]Someone once told me that all advanced stuff is just doing basics really fast.[/QUOTE]d maybe more open to the many, may ways there are toapply those basics.
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### Author:  [@1bad65](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/1bad65)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/marc-laimon-on-royce-gracies-bjj-its-actually-sh/43467/16 "2008-06-04T02:32:37Z")
[QUOTE=Three Harmonies;864253]It is commong knowledge that when Royce did the first UFC’s, that it was Helio’s words that they put in the worst Gracie to compete to show that even the worst at BJJ could beat the “best” in the world!
Jake 🆒[/QUOTE]
Not sure about that. Rickson was not chosen because he was too big and athletic. He looked like a fighter. Royce looked like an average, skinny guy. The Gracies knew it would prove their point easier if a small, ordinary looking guy beat much larger guys who looked like fighters should look.