I am interesed on know about choy lay fut staff forms from other lineages/branches … i will copy the Doc Fai Wong Staff list . I believe he is Hung Sing and Chan Family .
Staff Forms :
Junior Plum Blossom Staff (Siu Mui Fa Gwun)
Junior Bin-Gwai Staff (Siu Bin-Gwai Seung Tau Gwun)
Double and Single-Ended Staff (Seung Gup Dahn Gwun)
Flat Crutch Double-Ended Staff (Bin-Gwai Seung Tau Gwun)
Monkey King Staff (Hang Jeh Pang)
Driving Dragon Double-Ended Staff (Chim Lung Seung Tau Gwun)
Coiling Dragon Double-Ended Staff (Poon Lung Seung Tau Gwun)
Twining Dragon Double-Ended Staff (Chin Lung Seung Tau Gwun)
Twin Dragon Holding In Air Double-Ended Staff (Seung Lung Gup Hei Gwun)
Chau-Sot Single-Ended Staff (Chau-Sot Dahn Tau Gwun)
Chau-Sot Ba Gua Staff (Chau-Sot Bot Gwa Gwun)
Great Banner Single-Ended Staff (Dai Hung Kei Dahn Tau Gwun)
Plum Blossom Spear/Staff (Mui Fa Cheung Gwun)
Driving Dragon Single-Ended Staff (Chim Lung Dahn Tau Gwun)
Coiling Dragon Single-Ended Staff (Poon Lung Dahn Tau Gwun)
Plum Blossom Pa-Kua Staff (Ng Dim Mui Fa Bot Gwa Gwun)
I am got some of the Tat Wong / Lee Koon Hung Staff Forms :
Siu Lum Staff
Muy Fah Bin Gwai Kwun
Muy Fah Chak Kwun
Loong Haang Kwun
Dai Hung Kai Dahn Tao Kwun
Seung Gup Dahn Kwun
there is more staff forms in Tat Wong or Lee Koon Hung Branch ?
Well, I think GM Dino Salvatera represents Hung Sing more than GM DFW, who represents the Jiangmen branch. Just google his name and you’ll find his website. There’s also Buk Sing, with GM Vince Lacey. You also have Master Chan Yong Fa, who covers Chan family.
For the most part, every branch is different in several aspects, and it’s best you get the information from them instead of me, as my knowledge of CLF outside of GM DFW is cursory at best.
CLFNole : Thank you . I will add Hung Jeh Pang to my list . There is no more staff forms in your branch ? More advanced staff forms maybe ? I’d used to train on one of the Tat Wong Kung Fu School in the past and i 'd always think there was more staff forms on his branch .
DFW only has one (YUEN HAI LINEAGE) staff form passed down by Lau Bun. But in our lineage, our elders have created newer staff forms as well as my sifu (GM D. Salvatera). The Yuen Hai lineage is the last of its kind in the Hung Sing family. So we’ve honored our elders and continue to evolve our lineage. Aso, we’ve picked up a few old staff forms from the Fut San Hung Sing Kwoon not previously handed down to Lau Bun.
I know Sifu Sam Ng in Chicago has a 6.5 point pole I believe it is called lok dim mui fah baat kwa kwun - 6 1/2 point plum flower eight diagram pole. He is from the Chan Koon Pak line.
The 6.5 point pole and baat kwa pole styles were very famous long ago and principles, forms and techniques were incorporated and brought into many southern systems.
The water bucket might have to do with the Bien Kwai Kwun form/name. It is commonly referred to as the “flat stick” as it was used by workers to carry things on each end possibly water buckets but I could be wrong.
Thank you for all your responses . When i’d learn Muy Fah Bin Gwai years ago my instructor told me the Bin Gwai was a staff used for carry things on the shoulders an a common image on ancient China or Egypt.
In Brasil the Chan Kwok Wai people used to perform a staff form called the Fisher Staff. I don’t know his chinese name .
Clfnole : I’d saw a video on youtube of a guy from your school performing a staff form called Muy Fah Staff/Spear form . That form belong the staff list or the Spear list ?
know Sifu Sam Ng in Chicago has a 6.5 point pole I believe it is called lok dim mui fah baat kwa kwun - 6 1/2 point plum flower eight diagram pole. He is from the Chan Koon Pak line
Kind of correct. We call it Ng Long Bat Kwa Gwun, it may have another name but I don’t know. It’s fairly similar to the hung ga version
we also have
hung jia pang
dai hung kei gwun
hung jia pang two person set
That set is not a LKH set it is from Wong Gong. Sifu Wai has been learning from Wong Gong for a number of years now and has incorporated his material into his curriculum. It is very easy to tell the difference by watching the opening bow sequence.
We have a few other spear forms besides sup sam cheurng such as tang lung cheung, yau cheung & wun hop cheung. I also learned a sheung tow cheung form from Li Siu Hung.
[QUOTE=CLFNole;981073]I know Sifu Sam Ng in Chicago has a 6.5 point pole I believe it is called lok dim mui fah baat kwa kwun - 6 1/2 point plum flower eight diagram pole. He is from the Chan Koon Pak line.
The 6.5 point pole and baat kwa pole styles were very famous long ago and principles, forms and techniques were incorporated and brought into many southern systems.[/QUOTE]
Very interesting thread here gents. I would love to see what the 6.5 point pole form you mention here actually looks like as it’s common practise in Wing Chun circles, albeit still very ‘advanced’ and varied from family to family.
I used to specialize in our form as it tends to be more lengthy and structured than the common Ip Family version. Probably more akin to what it was like in it’s older state.
As a note, we generally translated the name to ‘Six Point and Half Pole’ as it contains the original 6 points and a half pole set within it. As far as I’ve seen no other Wing Chun family practises this way other than Lee Shing root.