pangquan
i think ur under the illusion that most break ins happen at night
they dont
they happen when ur out
so get a rottweiler or a neopolitan mastiff
problem solved
[QUOTE=Royal Dragon;743489]sort of like the so called peace we have due to assured destruction that nuclear weapons afford us.
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The ability to totally anihalate your attackers prevents them from attacking in the first place. It’s not different than a fist fight. If youhad reason to attack someoen, (Say they raped ur sister), and you had a reasonable chance of kicking his ass and winning, what’s to stop you? BUT, if he was 7 foot 5, weight 450, and could bench 850, I bet you wouldn’t even try.
Now, on the world scene, especially with Terrorists nations wanting to wipe us from existance, who do you want to be, the guy that is beatable, or the one with the nukes instilling so much fear into yur enemies that they tremble at the thought of a confrontation with you?
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Did you just say that the US is a rapist thug?
Why would you say that?
Dogs don’t do a darn thing when the bad guy shoots or stabbs them first…Dogs can’t shoot back like we can…
Not quite what I meant. I should probably read my posts befor i hit the post button. I will have to re word that when i am done with all these reports.
The basic jist, is no matter WHO the 7 foot 450 pound solid muscle guy is, no one messes with him. Better to be that guy, than the one who is beatable.
As for the .50 CAL, I don’t see a problem driving my open jeep around town with one mounted in the back. Do you? 
Not if your town is Kabul, I don’t.
I was thinking more of Westmont, or Naperville
For example, say I were to have to go to Walgreens to get my Prosac prescription filled. :eek: 
what would u be defending yourself from ?
the communists ??
or worse FREE THINKERS !!
what would u be defending yourself from ?
the communists ??
or worse FREE THINKERS !!
How does this make sense?
[QUOTE=golden arhat;743582]pangquan
i think ur under the illusion that most break ins happen at night
they dont
they happen when ur out
so get a rottweiler or a neopolitan mastiff
problem solved[/QUOTE]
Im not under any illusions. Read carefully, my particular situation DID happen at night.
I simply told a story, i formed no opinions or arguments as to when or where assaults happen.
you simply formed an illusion for yourself. or perhaps you can point to my words that say i assume as such that you stated i did. which you cannot, because i simply have not made any statements.
by the way, breakins/assaults dont happen only when your out or at home, night or day, they happen in every single situation you can imagine. this is the nature of life. if it can, then it most likely WILL happen.
by the way, i dont want a dog, read my posts more carefully and you will find i dont own a gun, as i have stated several times. I dont plan to.
my major form of defense is using common sense and preparedness in security of home.
yes but it is true that most breakins happen in the day
fact
so get a big dog thats protective and fuking scary
my mums a prison officer and she said that most burglars are scared of dogs more than anything
many accounts show that a bullet isnt enough to stop a mastiff or a big dog like that
presuming u can hit something thats moving that fast and is intent on killing you
and black jack
i’m just sayin that its rediculous to have a 50 cal machine gun mounted on a car for non military purposes (assuming there is a valid one)
and what about other guns that aren’t effective for anything other than assault purposes
such as the tec 9
or the mac 10
or any other machine pistol u care to mention
Tec9’s are pieces of crap that jams every other round. No I can’t see having one.
Now being an owner of a Mac10/11, that is some fun stuff I tell ya. That is solidly built that when you run out of round, you throw it at your assailant and will more than likely put him or her in a coma from the impact. A close friend owns an H&K MP5SD. Sub machine guns are primarily used as investment vehicles. A Mac10 in a .45ACP would’ve run you right around $1000 3-4yrs ago. They are now going for $1500+. My friend bought his MP5SD around $10K in the same time frame. They are going around $18K+ now. Now I am talking about the fully automatic version, which are legal to own in about 20+ states if I am not mistaken. The semi automatic version would be cheaper of course and do not appreciate in value.
There are also quite a few regional sub machine gun shooting comps here in the states. We just had one nearby last weekend. I did not go cause I am currently out of funds to burn through 1000+ rds of ammo. 
And yes, there is price money involved.
i dont need a dog, the chances of me being the victim of another breakin are rare, especially where i live. besides i would never obtain a life for the sole purpose of protection. i think thats wrong. if i were to ever get a dog it would be for a loving pet first and foremost.
im simply not worried about it. and on the off chance it does happen, they can have my stuff / kill me / or die by the sword.
do u not think that if someone broke in and u immediately broke out one of those and sprayed the fukin place u would be liable to injure your family ? and wreck your house ?
i mean come on they arent exactly the pinnacle of accuracy are they ?
[QUOTE=golden arhat;743631]do u not think that if someone broke in and u immediately broke out one of those and sprayed the fukin place u would be liable to injure your family ? and wreck your house ?
i mean come on they arent exactly the pinnacle of accuracy are they ?[/QUOTE]
Nope, that’s where training comes in. Real life is not like the movies. The spray and pray technic is only used in the movies and by *******es. These firearms do have sights you know so you can aim at your target. They also have a semi auto switch. If you do have to fire full auto, you do it in burst of 2-3rds. That is how the military does, that is how you do it in competitions, that is how you are trained. That is the whole point of competing, Accuracy. I would never use a full auto weapon for defense. Those stay in the safe locked up tight. You have to use the right tool for the job. You wouldn’t use a hammer if a wrench was needed, would you?
My home defense weapon also has low grain powder and rounds are design to fragment easily so as not to penetrate walls. If they do then they should be fragmented and do minimal harm. The same with my carry weapon. So that if I do have to use it in public, it will not over penetrate and hit someone unintended.
You see gun ownership is a responsibility, much like driving a car. If you don’t maintain your brakes you are liable to cause an accident or run over somebody. Owning a firearms means that you have to learn about that firearm and be familiar with what it can do. Training and education is the key in firearms.
i mean come on they arent exactly the pinnacle of accuracy are they ?
Again any tool is based on the context of the situation, the enviroment and your training. Guns save lives over and over again this is proven. You are making up odd statements.
Gun Control -
Those NRMA guys are always saying how gun crime has exploded in Australia and the UK since the guns were banned.
Yep, for sure, in Sydney we’d have 3 shootings a year, its maybe up to 6 now, a full 100% increase! OH MY GOD! Arm up boys, the bad guys are comming! hahahahahahah.
UK similar. Canada is the best example. More like America, roughly equal gun ownership per capita. Only, similar death rates by gun to Aus and UK. Explain that away. Simple, Canadian’s aren’t afraid of their shadow, don’t go blasting away at their kids sneaking in at night, at their wives or husbands during a blue, or at themselves when it all gets too much.
The statistics speak for themselves, you are more likely to die by your own gun than the gun of another. Most murders are perpetrated by family members upon each other, and the vast majority of murders are comitted by people who know the victim.
That creepy mugger or home invader just doesn’t exist, regardless of the pumped up fear mongering going on in the media.
Crime has been dropping in ALL major American cities since the 90’s and the Gun Lobby jumps up to claim the credit. In reality, its the “Women’s right to choose” people who should be claiming credit, because the trend coincides with the legalisation of abortion on demand in the 70’s when all of those would be criminals would have been born.
Strip away the emotion, and you are left with the facts.
So, the constitution comes up next, the right to bear arms. That was included in the constitution to prevent tyrants from stealing elections, circumventing constutional rights, suspending the bill of rights and otherwise taking over government without fear of being overthrown by an armed population. Well, you had your chance and blew that one too, so why keep praying at that holy grail?
Sure, collecting wwII firearms, muzzle loaders, whatever. Hunting, pentathalon, quick draw, all those hobbies are probably lots of fun, and pose no real problem in my humble opinion, but assault weapons for gang bangers protected under the same laws?
As usual, you end up getting what you deserve in the long run. Its a classic case of your Karma running over your dogma.
On the subject of Dogs:
Several have mentioned “Just get a dog”, but what if you are deathly allergic to Dogs, to the point of visiting someone’s home who has a dog sends you into a severe alergic Asthma attack requireing hospitalisation? What do you do then?
Simpe, buy a Gun. Guns cost about the same as good dogs anyway.
get a dog who can fire a 12 guage.
Sure, collecting wwII firearms, muzzle loaders, whatever. Hunting, pentathalon, quick draw, all those hobbies are probably lots of fun, and pose no real problem in my humble opinion, but assault weapons for gang bangers protected under the same laws?
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The Gang Bangers are going to have them ANYWAY!!!
Why take them from us? Especially when we are not hurting anyone, and often use them in defense of our families?
It is just stupid to think the Laws are going to give the guns to Gang Members. It’s going to disarm US!
Why is that fact so hard for some to understand? It’s simple logic.