# Kyokushin vs. Drunken Boxing vid **URL:** \ **Category:** Kung Fu Forum\ **Tags:** kansuke-is-unkokusai, too-much-like-hardwo, hardwork-blows-roost, hw108-makes-hens-jea, hardwork-sux-dock, another-fine-mess, hardwork-is-a-loser, fred-fists-hardwork, asshat-vs-the-assclo, lol-gas-quotmasteryq, hw-is-a-rabid-antide, hw-takes-it-in-the-p, hardwork-still-a-los, a-hardworking-troll\ **Created:** [January 10, 2009, 6:00am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001 "2009-01-10T06:00:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![IronFist](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ironfist/32/16_2.png) [@IronFist](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/IronFist)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 6:00am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/1 "2009-01-10T06:00:53Z")
I dunno if this is choreographed or not. Doesn’t look like it. The only reason I’m posting it is because, if it isn’t choreographed, it’s the only time I’ve seen someone spar with drunken boxing. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkYF2MfHKzw&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkYF2MfHKzw&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![Hardwork108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hardwork108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hardwork108)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/2 "2009-01-11T01:52:38Z")
[QUOTE=IronFist;905473]I dunno if this is choreographed or not. Doesn’t look like it. The only reason I’m posting it is because, if it isn’t choreographed, it’s the only time I’ve seen someone spar with drunken boxing. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkYF2MfHKzw&feature=related[/QUOTE]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkYF2MfHKzw&feature=related%5B/QUOTE%5D) In my opinion this whole thing was staged to show Kyokushinkai Karate in good light. It is nothing but a media exhibition. However, it ended up showing both Kyokshin and Drunken Boxing in a bad light. I say this because the karate black belt was very one dimensional and I know for a fact that there is more to this style of karate than fancy kicking. This type of kicking would get one killed against a competent kung fu fighter, in a REAL fight, that is. On the other hand the kung fu fighter looked like he was sparring with his sister. This was at best a light sparring session rigged in favor of the karate fighter. There was no leg grabbing allowed. At 1.44 the Drunken Boxer grabs the Karate man´s leg and then lets go and apologizes. That is pretty good isn´t it? I can kick someone (whose arsenal of techniques include grabbing and grappling), all I want, knowing that he isn´t allowed to grab my leg to take me down.:rolleyes: There were more “fights” at this event (farce!) and the videos can be found in YouTube as well. HW8 ---
**Author:** ![AJM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5fc32e/32.png) [@AJM](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/AJM)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/3 "2009-01-11T20:10:45Z")
Read the commentaries. smacmillon caught the correct. ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Olson](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/eric_olson/32/847_2.png) [@Eric\_Olson](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Eric_Olson)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/4 "2009-01-12T00:22:13Z")
Uh…drunken boxing isn’t a style in and of itself…and I think these “drunken boxers” might have learned their moves from Tekken. :rolleyes: EO ---
**Author:** ![SimonM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/simonm/32/535_2.png) [@SimonM](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SimonM)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/5 "2009-01-12T13:39:37Z")
[QUOTE=IronFist;905473]I dunno if this is choreographed or not. Doesn’t look like it. The only reason I’m posting it is because, if it isn’t choreographed, it’s the only time I’ve seen someone spar with drunken boxing. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkYF2MfHKzw&feature=related[/QUOTE]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkYF2MfHKzw&feature=related%5B/QUOTE%5D) Is it 2004 again? ---
**Author:** ![sanjuro\_ronin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sanjuro_ronin/32/793_2.png) [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/6 "2009-01-12T13:51:15Z")
[QUOTE=IronFist;905473]I dunno if this is choreographed or not. Doesn’t look like it. The only reason I’m posting it is because, if it isn’t choreographed, it’s the only time I’ve seen someone spar with drunken boxing. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkYF2MfHKzw&feature=related[/QUOTE]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkYF2MfHKzw&feature=related%5B/QUOTE%5D) It was a silly display on all parts. The kyokushin guys held back as to not “hurt” their “friends” and the “drunken” boxers over did their inebriation to play up for the Cameras. This is reminent of that horrid WC VS Kyokushin display at the world champion ships on the 70’s. To say it was a fix is, well, accusatory, nevertheless, it was a joke and made Kyokushin look as bad as WC. No need for this silliness. ---
**Author:** ![SimonM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/simonm/32/535_2.png) [@SimonM](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SimonM)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/7 "2009-01-12T13:53:20Z")
That video makes the rounds every few years. We all know it. We all think it’s stupid. Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![Hardwork108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hardwork108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hardwork108)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/8 "2009-01-12T13:58:10Z")
[QUOTE=Eric Olson;905604]Uh…drunken boxing isn’t a style in and of itself…and I think these “drunken boxers” might have learned their moves from Tekken. :rolleyes: EO[/QUOTE] It is my understanding that Drunken Boxing was an individual style, at least in the old days. ---
**Author:** ![SimonM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/simonm/32/535_2.png) [@SimonM](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SimonM)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/9 "2009-01-12T14:04:52Z")
It is my understanding that “drunken boxing” is Chinese for “please hurt me some more”. Honestly, even done correctly (it was not in that video) it comprises a fair percentage of what is wrong in CMA. ---
**Author:** ![sanjuro\_ronin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sanjuro_ronin/32/793_2.png) [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/10 "2009-01-12T14:08:27Z")
[QUOTE=SimonM;905680]It is my understanding that “drunken boxing” is Chinese for “please hurt me some more”. Honestly, even done correctly (it was not in that video) it comprises a fair percentage of what is wrong in CMA.[/QUOTE] Actually, drunken boxing was/can be highly effective due to its very unorthodox and “clumsy” approuch to fighting. Ever been hit in sparring but a noobie that throws a round kick in the silliest of ways? Supposedly Drunken Boxers can hit you and launch attacks from the most unpredictable of ways and angles. ---
**Author:** ![SimonM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/simonm/32/535_2.png) [@SimonM](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SimonM)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/11 "2009-01-12T14:23:00Z")
Guess I’ve just never seen it than. Because every person I have seen attempt drunken boxing in a fight has left themselves open for a punch or a throw without fail. ---
**Author:** ![bawang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/bawang/32/3554_2.png) [@bawang](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bawang)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/12 "2009-01-12T15:10:53Z")
when drunken leaning around is called luohan dodging punch methods a lot less people make an ass out of themselves and when drunken footwork is called dragon footwork no one looks like a moron, even though those are the same but with different names people who do monkey style dont fling poo and scream like a monkey, people who do crane dont flap their wings and make bird noises i blame jackie chan ---
**Author:** ![SimonM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/simonm/32/535_2.png) [@SimonM](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SimonM)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/13 "2009-01-12T15:13:16Z")
ROFTLMFAO. Bawang you are awesome. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bawang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/bawang/32/3554_2.png) [@bawang](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bawang)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/14 "2009-01-12T15:18:31Z")
thanks super duper awesome friend but seriously yes the dodging and shuffling footwork is from a very old style of luohan because when i had seen a friend do a real form it was luohan with some SLIGHTLY drunken-looking movements added in between and some ditang other style add it because it is more a concept of doging instead of blocking and fighting with no rooting my feeling is the pais that do drunken today have not fought in their lineage for mebbes a few hundred years [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5XpUPbBmBc](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5XpUPbBmBc) look at this guy bobbing his head like hes dodging punches ---
**Author:** ![Hardwork108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hardwork108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hardwork108)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/15 "2009-01-12T15:49:47Z")
[QUOTE=SimonM;905680]It is my understanding that “drunken boxing” is Chinese for “please hurt me some more”. Honestly, even done correctly (it was not in that video) it comprises a fair percentage of what is wrong in CMA.[/QUOTE] Could it be that your Chinese language skills are even worse than your kung fu ones? You need to have a lot of qualifications before you can make that kind of a statement and if you did, then you would not have made such a statement in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![bawang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/bawang/32/3554_2.png) [@bawang](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bawang)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/16 "2009-01-12T15:54:00Z")
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;905704]Could it be that your Chinese language skills are even worse than your kung fu ones? You need to have a lot of qualifications before you can make that kind of a statement and if you did, then you would not have made such a statement in the first place.[/QUOTE] no he is right because drunken style has been a flower style for many years, it died out even before the boxing rebellion, it wasnt an amazingly good style in the first place, but had a few interesting concepts so many style incorporated it to train in dodging punches instead of blocking ,and not relying on rooted power, most importantly to look hurt. after a few punch you pretend youre dazed and tired, other guy drops his guard and goes for the knockout BAM surprise win but guess what? you pull that trick a couple times on the lei tai with all the other fighters watching they’re not gonna fall for it again ---
**Author:** ![Hardwork108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hardwork108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hardwork108)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/17 "2009-01-12T15:56:15Z")
[QUOTE=bawang;905707]no he is right because drunken style has been a flower style for many years, it died out even before the boxing rebellion[/QUOTE] Some people may argue the same about some of the other styles today but that does not mean that they were “hurt me” styles to start with. ---
**Author:** ![Kansuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@Kansuke](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Kansuke)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/18 "2009-01-12T15:58:26Z")
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;905704]Could it be that your Chinese language skills are even worse than your kung fu ones? [/QUOTE] How are your Chinese language skills? ---
**Author:** ![Hardwork108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hardwork108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hardwork108)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/19 "2009-01-12T16:09:36Z")
[QUOTE=Kansuke;905711]How are your Chinese language skills?[/QUOTE] Well I know enough Chinese to know that “Drunken Boxing” is not Chinese for “Hurt me some more”. Talking of “Drunken”, why don´t you be a good boy and run along and sober up before you post here again.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![bawang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/bawang/32/3554_2.png) [@bawang](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bawang)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001/20 "2009-01-12T16:09:53Z")
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;905708]Some people may argue the same about some of the other styles today but that does not mean that they were “hurt me” styles to start with.[/QUOTE] well it is now you can fight better with falun gong than learning drunken style [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kyokushin-vs-drunken-boxing-vid/45001.md?page=2)