# Kung Fu Weapons

**URL:** <https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978>\
**Category:** Kung Fu Forum\
**Created:** [April 8, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978 "2013-04-08T00:11:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/1 "2013-04-08T00:11:41Z")

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Dan Dao (, “single knife”)

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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/2 "2013-04-08T00:13:52Z")

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Good Comparison of basic types.

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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/3 "2013-04-08T00:19:21Z")

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Nice diagram The Niuweidao (Chinese: ; literally: Ox-Tailed Sword) was a type of Chinese saber (dao) of the late Qing Dynasty period. A heavy bladed weapon with a characteristic flaring tip, it was primarily a civilian weapon, as Imperial troops were never issued it.

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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/4 "2013-04-08T04:36:38Z")

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Here is a pictorial of the major types of single Sabers. #4 is the Oxtail  
can you name the others?

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**Author:** ![B.Tunks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de0a6/32.png) [@B.Tunks](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/B.Tunks)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 7:06am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/5 "2013-04-08T07:06:13Z")

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Wan dao (yuan dao), yanmao dao, liuye dao.

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**Author:** ![RickMatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecb155/32.png) [@RickMatz](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/RickMatz)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 5:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/6 "2013-04-08T17:07:59Z")

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I don’t know much about Chinese Swordsmanship. What are the pros and cons of the various saber shapes?

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**Author:** ![GeneChing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/geneching/32/96_2.png) [@GeneChing](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GeneChing)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/7 "2013-04-08T23:56:20Z")

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You know how some people have a variety of kitchen knives?

It’s like that, just bigger. 🙂

Cool diagrams, ngokfei.

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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/8 "2013-04-09T00:26:44Z")

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Here’s a pretty extensive description sheet

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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 5:25am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/9 "2013-04-09T05:25:39Z")

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Yun/Yuan Dao () - Circular/Round Knife  
Wan/Waan Dao() - Curved/Circular Knife

Many are used to calling it a version of the Arabic Scimitar

Another version I’ve seen has it looking very much more like a Sickle.

And even the terms are used in a movie title.

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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/10 "2013-04-09T05:52:10Z")

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Just giving our Boy Gene a hand in promoting the sponsors products 1st:😃

[Martial Arts Mart Chinese Saber](http://www.martialartsmart.com/weapons-chinese-weapons-broadswords.html)

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**Author:** ![GeneChing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/geneching/32/96_2.png) [@GeneChing](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GeneChing)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/11 "2013-04-09T16:17:37Z")

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Thanks for the plug, ngokfei

Anyone ever seen a form with those circular knives (the double ended ones)? Not a movie form - I’m curious to see a minjian or chuantong taolu. I’m not sure that I’ve even seen an authentic antique of those. Many ‘historic’ weapons are actually fabrications from opera or temple ornament weapons. That doesn’t necessarily invalidate them - those can be antique too - but they were never combat weapons.

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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/12 "2013-04-11T04:11:23Z")

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Its probably a spin off of the Middleastern Daggers known as the Khukuri/Gurka and the Janbiya.

This is the only one I’ve seen that is double bladed.

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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/13 "2013-04-11T04:16:23Z")

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this is also a cool example but with something extra.

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**Author:** ![ShaolinDan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@ShaolinDan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ShaolinDan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 7:29am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/14 "2013-04-11T07:29:21Z")

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Totally not into double bladed weapons…way too likely to stab myself. Almost skewered my thigh the one time I ever played with hook swords. :o

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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/15 "2013-04-11T15:07:16Z")

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Practice Practice

Perhaps you may want to start with a pair of practice wooden ones. like these.

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**Author:** ![ngokfei](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/ngokfei/32/77_2.png) [@ngokfei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ngokfei)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/16 "2013-04-11T15:15:17Z")

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but from what I read those hook swords are made of pine.

I’d like to recommend a great wood worker here in the USA who makes a wide variety of Chinese Practice Weapons. “Raven STudios”

[https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=447399218628980&set=pb.195922353776669.-2207520000.1365693033&type=3&theater](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=447399218628980&set=pb.195922353776669.-2207520000.1365693033&type=3&theater)

The quality speaks for itself.

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**Author:** ![GoldenBrain](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/goldenbrain/32/1052_2.png) [@GoldenBrain](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GoldenBrain)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/17 "2013-04-11T17:10:26Z")

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[QUOTE=ShaolinDan;1224936]Totally not into double bladed weapons…way too likely to stab myself.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100% with this statement. Plus, anytime I watch somebody using these fantasy weapons they seem way to slow in their movements.

I have a question for ngokfei. If the Ox Tailed Sword is the civilian model then which one is used for military? I just assumed it was for the military as well as civilians but I admit that I’m no expert on Chinese bladed weapons. Personally I like knives or a good Kukri and for swords I prefer the Krabi or Dha. Katanas are nice also but the shorter Krabi/Dha swords move better for me.

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**Author:** ![Lucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lucas/32/819_2.png) [@Lucas](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Lucas)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/18 "2013-04-11T17:35:43Z")

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[QUOTE=ngokfei;1224953]but from what I read those hook swords are made of pine.

I’d like to recommend a great wood worker here in the USA who makes a wide variety of Chinese Practice Weapons. “Raven STudios”

[https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=447399218628980&set=pb.195922353776669.-2207520000.1365693033&type=3&theater](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=447399218628980&set=pb.195922353776669.-2207520000.1365693033&type=3&theater)

The quality speaks for itself.[/QUOTE]

those look nice

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**Author:** ![GoldenBrain](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/goldenbrain/32/1052_2.png) [@GoldenBrain](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GoldenBrain)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/19 "2013-04-11T18:14:16Z")

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Here’s a link to Raven Studios for those who don’t participate in Facebook.

[http://www.little-raven.com/RS/MA/](http://www.little-raven.com/RS/MA/)

I agree with Lucas. Looks like some fine work. It makes me want to break out the lathe and try my hand at making some of my own practice weapons and maybe even a mook jong. I have some fresh eastern red cedar, oak and hickory that I recently cut down to make room for our garden. I set a bunch aside for milling into planks, flooring and such but I think I’ll repurpose some of it to make some new toys.

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**Author:** ![gunbeatskroty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@gunbeatskroty](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/gunbeatskroty)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-weapons/54978/20 "2013-04-11T18:45:52Z")

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pretty badass and scary at the same time…how people used to carve each other up in battlefields with them…i’d rather be sprayed with an AK-47 over this joint any day if i had to go out.

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