# Kung Fu Fighters -- Amateur Kickboxing and MMA Event needs fighters **URL:** \ **Category:** Kung Fu Forum\ **Created:** [July 30, 2003, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972 "2003-07-30T15:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![truewrestler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/truewrestler/32/154_2.png) [@truewrestler](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/truewrestler)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/1 "2003-07-30T15:30:28Z")
[http://mma.tv/TUF/DisplayMessages.cfm?TID=258655&P=24&FID=1&c=1](http://mma.tv/TUF/DisplayMessages.cfm?TID=258655&P=24&FID=1&c=1) (disclaimer: I don’t know anything about this event or promoter other than what has been posted at the above link) ---
**Author:** ![MasterKiller](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/masterkiller/32/407_2.png) [@MasterKiller](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MasterKiller)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/2 "2003-07-30T15:34:52Z")
Kung fu doesn’t translate into the ring. ---
**Author:** ![truewrestler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/truewrestler/32/154_2.png) [@truewrestler](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/truewrestler)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/3 "2003-07-30T15:37:42Z")
I think it means Chinese Boxing ---
**Author:** ![MasterKiller](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/masterkiller/32/407_2.png) [@MasterKiller](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MasterKiller)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/4 "2003-07-30T15:50:19Z")
I don’t see any reference to Chinese boxing in the ad. Kung Fu cannot be used to effectively sport box someone, and it was never intended to do so. ---
**Author:** ![ShaolinTiger00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@ShaolinTiger00](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ShaolinTiger00)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/5 "2003-07-30T15:54:28Z")
lol @ “too deadly for the ring” mentality. ---
**Author:** ![truewrestler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/truewrestler/32/154_2.png) [@truewrestler](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/truewrestler)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/6 "2003-07-30T15:57:12Z")
Doesn’t Kung Fu traslante into Chinese Boxing? “Kung Fu cannot be used to effectively sport box someone, and it was never intended to do so.” Are you being sarcastic? I think many San Shou fighters who frequent would disagree with you. Regardless… I did not create this thread for discussion. I posted the information because some board members have expressed interested in competing in MMA. ---
**Author:** ![MasterKiller](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/masterkiller/32/407_2.png) [@MasterKiller](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MasterKiller)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/7 "2003-07-30T15:59:35Z")
> Doesn’t Kung Fu traslante into Chinese Boxing? > No. Kung Fu means “hard work.” Wushu means “martial art,” not sport art. I didn’t say “too deadly.” What I’m saying is that Kung Fu was developed to take people out quickly on the battlefield. It was not developed as an endurance contest for multi-round fights. If you can’t do things like throw elbows or forearms to the head or chest, or kick to the knees or ankles, then you are forcing a kung fu fighter into a sport fight, which he will not be prepared for. And if throwing an elbow into someone’s nose isn’t deadly, why isn’t it allowed in the ring? ---
**Author:** ![truewrestler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/truewrestler/32/154_2.png) [@truewrestler](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/truewrestler)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/8 "2003-07-30T16:07:17Z")
> If you can’t do things like throw elbows or forearms to the head or chest, or kick to the knees or ankles, then you are forcing a kung fu fighter into a sport fight, which he will not be prepared for. And if throwing an elbow into someone’s nose isn’t deadly, why isn’t it allowed in the ring? Many MMA organizations allow most or all that you have described. When elbows are allowed to the face (all UFC fights since the beginning) they are indeed allowed to the nose. In the thousands of MMA fights that allow elbows to the nose not a single death has occured as a result of such a blow. I must ask again, are you being sarcastic, trolling, etc? ---
**Author:** ![MasterKiller](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/masterkiller/32/407_2.png) [@MasterKiller](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MasterKiller)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/9 "2003-07-30T16:13:14Z")
Deadly was ST00’s term, not mine. I used the term loosely to point out competition rules are installed to watch out for the fighter’s safety. San Shou is a different beast all together. It IS intended for competition. ---
**Author:** ![truewrestler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/truewrestler/32/154_2.png) [@truewrestler](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/truewrestler)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 4:16pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/10 "2003-07-30T16:16:18Z")
… I’m thinking I’m just going to ignore you Like I said before, I did not create this thread for discussion. to the top ---
**Author:** ![Merryprankster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/merryprankster/32/102_2.png) [@Merryprankster](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Merryprankster)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/11 "2003-07-30T16:17:29Z")
I’m sorry, but that’s just dumb. If you can’t get what you do in the kwoon to work right in the ring you’re long on tricks and short on basics. Finally, you can elbow, knee and attack the joints in many contests. ---
**Author:** ![SifuAbel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sifuabel/32/45_2.png) [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/12 "2003-07-30T16:34:50Z")
Sorry to do this to you, MK, but I’m forced to agree with the Drama queen and the BJJ enforcers. CTMA has been called Chinese boxing in the past. There is no reason why a person couldn’t enter in these types of events if so inclined. To punch, kick, throw, etc, is not beneath us or beyond us. Kung fu is not some arcane magical system, it is fighting plain and simple. San shou was created BY TCMA as an avenue for free fighting. If they want to make it something else now, they can go ahead and rewrite history if they want. There are only so many ways you can punch, kick, throw, etc, anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Merryprankster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/merryprankster/32/102_2.png) [@Merryprankster](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Merryprankster)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/13 "2003-07-30T16:36:50Z")
If talking sense labels me a BJJ Enforcer, so be it 😃 Heck, you’re 80% BJJ enforcer yourself. It’s just the other 20% I’ve got trouble with… ---
**Author:** ![SifuAbel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sifuabel/32/45_2.png) [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/14 "2003-07-30T16:38:08Z")
How am I a BJJ enforcer? At least you are not a drama queen. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Merryprankster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/merryprankster/32/102_2.png) [@Merryprankster](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Merryprankster)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/15 "2003-07-30T16:41:43Z")
You don’t accept stupid excuses. As for not being a drama queen, you’ve never seen me in a skirt… ---
**Author:** ![MasterKiller](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/masterkiller/32/407_2.png) [@MasterKiller](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MasterKiller)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/16 "2003-07-30T16:41:56Z")
> Kung fu is not some arcane magical system, it is fighting plain and simple. > I never claimed otherwise. Fighting is not the same as boxing, though. Just curious, how many grapplers on this forum have ever competed in a NHB tourny where elbows to the face and kicks to the joints were allowed? ---
**Author:** ![ShaolinTiger00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@ShaolinTiger00](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ShaolinTiger00)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/17 "2003-07-30T16:49:35Z")
> to agree with the Drama queen Can we put the name calling and pettiness to rest now? Maybe we don’t agree on some things Abel, but I think at the core we share many of the same fundamental opinions in regards to kung fu. If you’re ever in DC, we’ll work out and then get drunk on mojitos and laugh. ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/18 "2003-07-30T17:14:45Z")
Masterkiller, before you act like you know what you are talking about, maybe consult some facts? San Shou was created by the Chinese MILITARY for close quarters combat. I know, you are still trying to blow that chicken up at 30 yards with your deadly chi blast… The “too deadly” crap is such a joke, no wonder most of you can’t last more than a minute in a real fighting event ---
**Author:** ![MasterKiller](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/masterkiller/32/407_2.png) [@MasterKiller](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MasterKiller)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/19 "2003-07-30T17:22:20Z")
> I know, you are still trying to blow that chicken up at 30 yards with your deadly chi blast… > When have I ever claimed anything to support this accusation? > San Shou was created by the Chinese MILITARY for close quarters combat. > OK. In their infinite wisdom, did they decide that kicking joints and throwing elbows would not occur in a real combat situation? ---
**Author:** ![Merryprankster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/merryprankster/32/102_2.png) [@Merryprankster](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Merryprankster)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972/20 "2003-07-30T18:11:59Z")
> Just curious, how many grapplers on this forum have ever competed in a NHB tourny where elbows to the face and kicks to the joints were allowed? I haven’t, but plenty have. IVT in Brazil allows everything except eyegouging and biting, including headbutts, UFC allows elbows to the face both standing and on the ground. It also allows striking to the joints. Prides rules, while not allowing elbows, do allow knee strikes to the head on the ground, as well as soccer kicks to the head of a downed opponent to make up for that. But, since you’re setting up a straw man anyway, how about you tell us how many MMA events you’ve been in at all? I mean, one good straw man deserves another! [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/kung-fu-fighters-amateur-kickboxing-and-mma-event-needs-fighters/21972.md?page=2)