Knees

"Judge, don’t let those expensive “Quacks” cut your knee open! You will regret it for the rest of your life, bro.

I’d say, have your MRI/X-Ray so you know exactly what’s there. But find yourself a wholistic practicioner of any variety (Acupressure, acupuncture, rolfing, etc) so that they will help the body heal itself. "

Sorry but in order to save someone from being mislead,I´d like to say that they are “wholistic” (holistic) practitioners that are generally recognized as quacks.

Sorry but in order to save someone from being mislead,I´d like to say that they are “wholistic” (holistic) practitioners that are generally recognized as quacks

You say Tomato, I say To-mah-toe. How many D students are practicing medicine nowdays? How many people slept with their teachers in order to pass and become surgeons? How many “doctors” learned how to practice medicine from correspondence courses, or bought degrees from online degree brokers, or read a few books a la “Good Will Hunting”, and decided that they knew enough to start practicing medicine.

Don’t assume that a piece of paper makes any Western Medicine-style doctor better than a holistic practicioner. (Thank you for correcting my spelling). Most of these doctors see pain as something to throw an expensive bottle of pills at, and once that liver-destroying **** is proven ineffective, they start with the cutting.

How do I know? Experience, my friend. Everytime the tendonitis flared up and I went to see one of those overpaid ***s, they did just what I described. Until one day I got so sick from taking that new Celebrex bull (the commercial with the older woman doing Tai Chi), I finally woke up and decided to see someone who could REALLY help.

Don’t be sorry - your opinion is a valid one, but from my experience it’s complete bull. My mother and my sister are both healthcare practicioners, and they now use herbs and holistic treatments in their regimines. But ask yourself why everyone thinks holistic healers are quacks. Is it because the AMA says they are, and their word is law? Is it because the FDA takes years to approve herbal remedies, but pushes the latest pharmaceuticals upon us without adequate studies? Oh wait, you’re not from the U.S…

…nevermind :smiley:

Oh.Yeah,yeah? Is that so? Now I really have to let you know how…

"…nevermind "

OK. :smiley:

On a more serious note,I understand your opinion but I think you´re being excessively hostile towards medical science.
But since you´re laying your experiences on the line,there´s nothing I can say about that.

I tore the lateral meniscus in my right knee a few years ago playing ultimate. After 6 months or so the pain was just getting worse & I went in for surgery. Looking back on it, I wish I had tried an alternative treatment first, but I can’t say I’m sorry I had surgery. It took me over a year before I could do most everything I wanted (not the 2 months my surgeon predicted). Also, I had to scale way back on my bagua & taiji practice because it aggravated the knee pain (the weird & problematic thing was that I never had pain during training, but as soon as I would stop the knee would hurt like hell). Now my principal art is Arnis, but I have been doing extensive internal training as well. My teacher gave me an herbal formula that has dramatically reduced the lingering pain I still experience on occasion.

The only advice I can give is to explore all your options & go with what feels right to you. There are fundamentalists of all stripes when it comes to health care. But it’s your body. And don’t forget that with holistic & allopathic medicine, it’s not necessarily an either/or thing. Try to find sources that are familiar with and respectful of both. Good luck.

I had Osgood Slater’s Disease (technically a syndrome not a disease) when I was younger. My knees have never been that strong. I had various problems such as my knees giving out on me. Several weeks ago I slipped and wound up putting all my weight on my left knee. Hurt like a mother f**ker. I thought I tore the meniscus or something. Knock on wood my knee has gotten better. Could have been a lot worse. I attribute my fast recovery to my Tai Chi Chuan training, which has help build the muscles up around my knee. If I would have had the same injury several years ago the outcome would have been a lot worse. Best thing you can do is rest you knee. See a doctor if things don’t get better. I also had someone in my Tai Chi Chuan class tear an MCL. She wound up wearing a brace after the surgery but was able to do the form (high stance). Hope things work out for you.

Re: Knee Injury

Originally posted by dragon797
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Say, are you with Master Mullins? [/B]

Thanks for all the advice. The knee feels amazing today. Almost as if nothing happened so I’m thinking it’s a sprain. I did some Tai Chi and Pa Kua and that felt like it helped it. Scary thogh because I am afraid that one day a knee will go and end my training (at least in the external).

dragon797: Yes, I am with Master Mullins. I don’t train regularly with him, but his oldest son is my sifu. Where do you train? What style?

I’ve blown both knees… go see a doctor…

I have partially torn ligaments (mcl’s) somehow screwed my pcl and bruised the patella when I dislocated it… I have pain in my knees, and probably always will, the best thing you can do is the rehab but you really need to keep at it.:smiley: Oh, and when you think that you should be doing more (which a lot of people do) during your rehab.. ask the pt, thats what they are there for.

Re: Re: Knee Injury

Originally posted by Judge Pen
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Thanks for all the advice. The knee feels amazing today. Almost as if nothing happened so I’m thinking it’s a sprain. I did some Tai Chi and Pa Kua and that felt like it helped it. Scary thogh because I am afraid that one day a knee will go and end my training (at least in the external).

dragon797: Yes, I am with Master Mullins. I don’t train regularly with him, but his oldest son is my sifu. Where do you train? What style? [/B]

Great news about your knee.

I trained with Garry MANY years ago when he lived in Kentucky and both of us still had a full head of hair. He was an excellent martial artist and apparently still is. As far as now…that’s a can or worms best not opened on an internet forum. Regards.

Re: Re: Re: Knee Injury

Originally posted by dragon797
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Great news about your knee.

I trained with Garry MANY years ago when he lived in Kentucky and both of us still had a full head of hair. He was an excellent martial artist and apparently still is. As far as now…that’s a can or worms best not opened on an internet forum. Regards. [/B]

I understand. I’d send you a private message, but I apparently can’t. Anyway, feel free to PM me if you to discuss this more. Regards to you as well.