well, shut my mouth 
he did direct some films.
cheers
Originally posted by Kung Lek
[B]well, shut my mouth
he did direct some films.
cheers [/B]
Haha! Kung Lek is punked in Forum-Fu!
I personally feel that one of the best thing you can see in yourself is your own folly and mistakes.
so, if I’m wrong, be sure to “punk” me off with a sense of assurity that I will do my best to find out where I went wrong and I will correct it.
cheers
wel said Kung…
now can we get back to discussing Uma Thurman!!! 
In best Homer Simpson voice
“mmmmm Ummmaaaa”
Her first name is Hindi for “Moon”
I’d like to see her moon.
Dangerous Liasons is a great movie.
MmmmmMoooonThurrrmannn!
(There should be a drooling smilie).
when I first heard of Kill Bill, I was excited. Now, after seeing that crappy trailer I wanna puke my ****ing brains out. You gotta give some creds for the bruce lee ****in overall on uma. funny **** right there, funny ****. But the rest, aaaw come on? I’m I suposed to be impressed? What I’m I stupid? Still, this is a very exciting movie year with lotta great movies comming out. X2, the hulk, LOTR 3 (ok officially next year but what the ****) Daredevil (even if I have low expectations and Bullseye look like a **** sucker) Oh, n Matrix how could I forget bout the matrix? Jesus ****ing christ, I’m tingeling all over
What??!! No Samuel Jackson?!
From the trailer, this film looks like pure crap. But maybe it’s fun crap. Whatever kind of crap it is, it will potentially be very good for the market of martial arts. More MA movies will be available & on sale and more people will have an interest in learning martial arts, at least for a little while.
So it follows, then, that Tarantino’s next “homage” film should be combining the Blaxploitation and Martial arts genre…which means he should be casting Jim Kelly and Ron Van Clief soon. Either that or Sci Fi.
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I wonder if Quentin has done any martial arts? When he talks, his hand gestures form resemblances of dragon and eagle claws!
What style would suit his body type? White Crane, maybe?
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drunken style…
More like Cocaine-Style! He’s a spaz!
My Review of “Kill Bill vol.1”
Well i went to go see the opening of Kill Bill today and whereas our beloved austin chronicle gives the movie a 4 star rating(obviously brown nosing tarantino who resides here) i find it not to be that of four star material. Maybe a 3 star, yes i woudl give this flick a 3 star rating.
Pretty much it is gonna be what most are expecting the movie to be. lots of fighting and tarantino esque flavor and ridiculous gore(he is definately keeping in with the old shaw brothers films)
i thought ,all in all, it was good but i have to say that this new thing in movies to make you wait for the next part is really quite annoying. i mean i would have sat there for an extra hour if it meant that i didnt have to wait another god ****ed year for part 2 to this film to come out.
Uma thurman is a hottie by any standards so i enjoyed watching her parade around like bruce lee on a revenge mission.
i liked the Jap animae in the film,,,,great addition to it.
as for the fighting in the film? you know i have to say that i think fighting in films has really gone down hill these days. i mean you have real fast shots and skips and fight scenes that really confuse the hell out of you.you start to watch a scene and then it flashes to another angle and then it goes back to what you were watching to begin with and it gets all confusing. i mean i remember the days when you could watch a fight film and actually SEE HOW they were fighting and you could SEE the fight. as with films like “Fist of Legend” and some of Jacky chans old films.
but when you have inexperienced actors that Look good but are not necessarily in shape or have the ability to do what jet li and jacky chan did you get a less quality fight scene and you have to make up for it with all those fast shots and seeing the back of the actors head(which is a stunt double anyway)
But aside from my @nal retentiveness to fight scenes in movies i Liked Kill Bill alot and even though i am PI$$ed that i have to wait another year for Volume 2. i am still looking forward to seeing it.
*** three stars from the willow sword.
Peace,
Thanks TWS.
I agree with the fight direction complaint in most movies, but you hit the nail on the head. It hides the inadequcies of the actors.
Yeah, fast cuts and tight shots suck. I want as little editing as possible and as good and complete a view of the actual movements of the players as possible, please. I’ll probably see KB1 this weekend.
Minor correction, though - Pt 2 is scheduled for February, so it’ll be considerably less than a year to wait.
CSN
i did not know that, thanks for the info on Vol. 2 i can now breath a sigh of relief knowing that i wont yet be another year older before part 2 comes out.
Peace,,,,,,TWS
Although I think i’ll reserve my overall opinion of the flick till after the second, generally I think the movie was probably the most “out there” of Tarantino’s flicks. There were some latent throwbacks to the old school stuff, but I really wish they would have gone with the TRUE old school way of shooting long shot fight scenes. Of course this pretty much isn’t possible since the actors are not martial artists.
I liked the homage to the flying guillotine with Gogo’s weird arse chain whip of doom thingy.
It seemed that Yuen Wo Ping might have been creatively held back (although I realize there is probably more to come in the second), but that fight scene at the japanese bar was handled pretty well. The gore was just too goofy in my opinion and it was pretty much in league with the gore found in Riki Oh (which was goofy on purpose).
Tarantino’s strong points are usually in the dialog, and I think this movie had some pretty good lines- especially Uma’s part after the fight in the japanese club.
Stylistically, I think a lot of the shots were too long and the intended mood was lost. He could have trimmed a few minutes off the last fight scene alone just by not focusing on that **** water pump thing (which was kind of a throwback to Kurosawa in some ways). I really didn’t dig those **** long shots on Uma’s funky arse feet.
The anime part was probably my least favorite, but admittedly its because I really dont like anime. On a stylistic level it really changed the mood, but I think told the backstory creatively and some shots were used that would have been pretty hard to do live action. I think this was just a way of paying homage to the whole martial arts film/ anime genre and catering to the specific audience. It seems like he was really trying to cover a lot of bases.
Plotwise the movie is pretty predictable (so far as of the end of this movie), but I’m sure there will be some plot twists.
That’s about it. I think this movie will be more enjoyable the second time around for me. I just hope that Carradine really gets mauled in the second movie. I hate that *******, haha.
Peace [:D]
I think that tarentino should’ve used more creativity in the weapons, and that bar fight was so influenced by old school kung fu flicks..except that it never showed any real martial art style, you now something you can relate to and recognize some moves. And the film kept losing the kung-fu feel everytime another limb would get chopped off.
I do agree some fight scenes got boring because you can never really appreciate the martial art styling they put on the film because there wasn’t any style.
I read that Vol. I is to have a more Japanese flair to it while Vol. II will be more Chinese.
I agree with the bar fight being over the top, but I thought the fight between the Bride and O-Ren was perfect. I even liked the water spout.
Volume 1 definitely had more of a Japanese tone than Chinese. From the long staredowns and pacing of the exchanges to the flashing swordwork after which three people stagger a bit and fall down. All of it very reminiscent of chanbara samurai films.
There is some fu in there too, obviously. Gordon Liu, the “rope dart” (read: enormous metal, bladed ball thing), the guy with two axes, etc.
Yuen Wo Ping is listed as the martial arts “advisor” I think. I was watching the credits at the end (though, admittedly, I was also filing out of the theater) and I thought that they listed a different choreographer. That kinda makes sense to me. The Japanese scenes, in particular, didn’t look particularly like Yuen Wo Ping’s work to me.
I’d bet that his capacity as advisor had a lot to do with preparing the actors for the choreography though. And on that note, I have to disagree that fight choreography has gone downhill. I mean, obviously Uma Thurman doesn’t have the technical know how of [insert favorite kung fu star here]. And that will either show in certain movements or be covered by savvy editing.
But the quality of choreography is worlds better than anything, say, Van Damme ever turned out. And universes better than previous efforts to make non-martial artists look like martial artists. Why? Because Yuen knows what makes a fight scene interesting. He knows that real martial artists aren’t better because they can do a jumping front kick rather than just a plain old front kick. (That, for a long time, was a favorite move in movies to denote that the hero knew fu.)
Yuen knows that what really makes two combatants look capable is the flowing exchange between them. Parry, counter, parry, counter. Look at the Matrix. The first fight between Neo and Morpheus. Sure, you could say “Neo shoulda turned his hip over more on that round kick.” But good grief, the flow of that fight scene was gorgeous. Same with Kill Bill.
Personally, I think the quality of fight scenes has skyrocketed. Jet Li is always going to look smoother than Keanu Reeves. Always. But martial arts have now actually become a legitimate and respected part of mainstream movies. And the actors and choreographers deserve a lot of credit for that.
Stuart B.