Jianguo Daye (Lofty Ambitions of Founding a Republic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HdUUsVug1o&feature=related

wang xiao ming played Mao’s bodyguard.

wang played in “legends of condor heroes”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4ScmdccOyw&feature=related

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the scene of John Woo played in was deleted.

in final editing of the movie, many scenes were cut.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll4CXYJeDzo&feature=rec-fav-watch-cur_emp-exp_fresh+div

zhang guo li complained about 9 deletions.

director han san ping explained.

zhang requested for a full movie without deleted scenes for personal collection and memory.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvS6UfbrKVY&feature=related

director han talked about how he picked the actors to play the roles

  1. shen and xing both

  2. shen or xing. shen is more important than xing

  3. without shen and xing.

shen: spirits/personalities/characters

xing: shape/form/appearance/looks

zhang guo li was second choice for playing CKS, since chen dao ming (first choice)was too busy to play. zhang guo li had to starve to lose weight.

chen kun played Chiang Jin Guo.

both do not look like the real persons (xing), so they have to focus and act in shen.

Only that Tang played Mao was not disputed. there are a lot of controversies/disputes about all the other characters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfUIYsvOnMk&feature=related

important characters

  1. nationalist youth party leader

  2. general chen cheng

  3. general bai chong xi

  4. general du yu ming


deng xiao ping

the group of directors paid much attention to the accuracy of history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBmwV1V2zDs&feature=related

jackie chan sang in the premier.

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just got the dvd and watched it

actually, I sort of know many events from 1945 to 1949.

the movie is sort of cursory in many respects.


Jet Li showed up early in the movie, he resigned as a naval officer due to opposition to civil war.

Jackie Chan acted as a reporter from hongkong and asked general Li zhong ren, if his taking over presidency would help the country. general li was worrying about his position within KMT and did not answer the question.

Jacked Chan with half grayish eyebrows actually “laughed” or “smiled” and said general you did not answer my question.

I meant JC smile is a hallmark that he likes to be a comedian on the screen and in his person life. His personal life goal is to bring smiles and laughters to as many people as he can.

Donnie Yan played Tian Han. he proposed the new national flag to be with 5 yellow stars. most representative preferred pattern choice number 1, which is a yellow star representive CPC and a yellow line across representing yellow river.

however, this design would mean a China is divided.

Donnie Yan also agreed to the national anthem to be “march of the volunteer” without changing the original lyrics which is about resistence war against Japan.

Zhang Zi Yi played woman representive, Zhao Wei also played woman representive.

Andy Lau showed up toward the end of the movie. He played security guard. The nationalist air force general in Guang Zhou was ready to lead a bombing wing to bomb Peiping, however, due to distance, no refueling points, this will be a way mission, no returning home.

After some thoughts, CKS played by Zhang Guo Li decided to cancel the bombing run.

overall, it is a good movie. however, if you know more about events during this period, this 2 hour and 15 min movie is sort of cursory or very brief in events.

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The Spy Next Door opens today

Author August West references THE FOUNDING OF A REPUBLIC in his review, Jackie Chan in His Mid-50s: THE SPY NEXT DOOR and SHINJUKU INCIDENT.

The prequel

Anyone see this aside from SPJ? I’ve been wanting to, but I need to invest in a DVD-9 player again.

China plans film to mark Communist Party birthday
By MIN LEE (AP) – 8 hours ago

HONG KONG — After its successful propaganda movie to mark 60 years of communist rule, China’s leading state-run studio is working on a follow-up timed to coincide with next year’s 90th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party.

Filmmakers are drafting the script and choosing locations for “The Founding of a Party,” China Film Group spokesman Weng Li told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Tuesday.

Weng said shooting would start later this year, with a targeted release date of around July 2011. The Chinese Communist Party celebrates its 90th anniversary July 1 next year.

Last year, China Film Group released “The Founding of a Republic” to mark the Chinese government’s 60th year in power. By injecting star power into the movie — Jackie Chan, Jet Li and a slew of the Chinese film industry’s biggest names had cameos — the studio produced a rare box office hit for the traditionally staid genre of propaganda cinema, with the 60 million yuan ($8.8 million) production earning 415 million yuan ($61 million). Its strong results were also helped by politically correct theater operators who inundated their multiplexes with screenings.

China Film Group is hoping for a repeat with “The Founding of a Party.”

Weng said he expects another all-star cast, but suggested that filmmakers may avoid the flurry of cameos that characterized “The Founding of a Republic.”

He said that while many stars would take part, the focus would be “on certain characters.”

just read in a local publication that there will be a follow up movie called “the founding of a party” to commemorate the 60th? anniversary of the chinese communist party. less camios are expected as there will be more focus on ‘specific characters’

[QUOTE=GeneChing;999688]Anyone see this aside from SPJ? I’ve been wanting to, but I need to invest in a DVD-9 player again.[/QUOTE]

i really want to see this but dont have a copy…I just saved it on netflix, so as soon as they get it in a format for me i’ll be watching it.

most educated Chinese are well aware of tales during those periods.

the movie used so many stars, it is a bit confusing and even distracting, since most movie or tv series watchers are too familiar with these actors and actresses

this movie is actually a re play of an early version with not so many shining stars.

there are simply too many events to be told.

also the director tried to make the movie on a personal level or more personal insights from the characters.

but it is very difficult on such a big topic.

  1. Mao’s cook went back to get breakfast and was bombed. Mao refused to leave and was carried out on a stretcher. Mao was reluctant to leave for shelter, when Hu Zhong Nan was bombing Yan An etc

  2. Jiang Jing Guo was not able to correct the corruption in Shang hai. He said China was so poor like a walking skeleton with bone and skin only. The relative Kong was hoarding goods in American warehouse to raise price—

  3. General Li Zhong Ren was so hung up with power within KMT. He insisted on being VP–

  4. President CKS said what is lost on the battle field, may not be regained on negotiation table meaning peace talk with CPC may not yield any results, now that they had the upperhand in the beginning of 1949.


all these personal tales may be accurate or not? but for the most part they are close enough?


well it is just a movie to attract attention of every one

it certainly grabbed attention of younger generation with all these stars.

so it is a more successful “movie” than the early version.

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I think the most important quote in the movie

would be from President CKS in nanjing

“if we do not fight CPC, KMT will be in danger. but if we fight the CPC, the country will be in danger.”

the economic at the time did not sustain any war effort at all.

more than half of the GDP was used to sustain the troops stationed in the northeast.

half of a million nationalist troops were holding 3 lone cities, while CPC troops numbered a million and had all the country side and resources of the northeast–


my point is that yes go watch the movie for the movie and not for the stars

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