Say you had to endure verbal abuse at work, or where ever.
Is this grounds for getting angry enough to fight someone?
Has it happened to you?
“My twa boab”
Verbal abuse can be more damaging than physical. And it may require an action, but probably not a physical response. File a complaint, or change jobs, but work related fights usually get you fired.
Verbal abuse never warrants physical action (unless there is a physical aspect to the verbal abuse such as someone waving a gun at you or something 
). Otherwise, just resolve it verbally or walk away.
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OK
I didnt necessarily mean to give the example of verbal abuse at work. I meant anywhere, like in the street.
What if someone insults your family? Your wife?
What I am saying is it’s very hard to walk away sometimes.
Haven’t you guys been so furious that you could easily strike out?
“My twa boab”
Yeah, I know what you mean, but think about it. They are only words, and do they really mean anything if someone hurls insults at you? Especially if they don’t know you, then how can their insults hurt you because you know they are wrong anyway.
Words are only words, and while they have power, they only have the power you allow them to have. If you are able to ignore them then they lose their power.
That is part of what MA training is about. Learn to control your own emotions so that simple things like words do not get you into situations that you should really avoid.
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Fair enough…
Would you agree then the MA training is half physiology and half psychology?
The only point I am making is that I think everyone has a temper. And some control it better than others.
“My twa boab”
Can-O-Bud,
What does “My twa boab” mean?
“Kick his ass, Sea-Bass!” - Dumb and Dumber
WCFighter…
It’s a Scottish term.
Literally translated it means “My two Shillings”.
ie my opinion!
“My twa boab”
It is an interesting question. I am not sure I know the answer. How we react to words is weird.
Say someone comes up to me, and in front of my wife, calls her a “fat, ugly wh0re”.
My reaction on an intellectual plane is almost to see this as humerous. First, she isn’t fat. Second, she isn’t ugly. Third, she is a lawyer, not a wh0re. But then I think, “Wait, lawyer… wh0re? Well, two out of three are wrong, anyway.” But, OK, you see my point, maybe? I don’t know this guy from a tree, and I hold no value in his opinions, whatsoever. Besides - he’s totally wrong (well, mostly wrong). Intellectually, this doesn’t stir me up.
But, on the emotional plan it is different. I don’t know why, but this cretin wishes to fight. Grrr! He is so minimally intelligent that he can’t even articulate it clearly, but he wants TO FIGHT. GRRRrr!!! Now he brings his stupid wishes and pushes them INTO MY FACE!!! I WILL DEAL WITH THEM AND HIM. DESTROY!!! DESTROY!!! KILLL!!!
Uh, excuse that outburst (ahem, straightens tie), but do you see what I mean? It is like there are two dynamics pulling as us (and man, I hope it isn’t just me) at the same time. Which one prevails decides what our reaction will be.
SLC … If a man comes up and calls your wife a fat, ugly, lawyer, … eh … I mean *****, you have no choice but to fight. Because no matter what this guy could do to you. Or how long it will take you to heal. Or how long you would be in jail. It is nothing compared to what you will have to endure from her for the next week, month, year, hell the rest of your life, if you don’t. 
Yeah (sigh).
That’s pretty much what she said too. :rolleyes:
Can-O-Bud,
I would say that yes there are elements of both. Whether it is half-half I don’t know. IMO the martial arts are meant to teach you self control, not only in your body but also in your mind.
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Just thought I’d ressurect this one for some more dicsussion
I realy believe that words are very powerful.
If you you look through history there are several examples of leaders that have brought countries to war by the power of words.
Look at Hilter. He convinced a whole country into believing that they should rise up and attmept to take over the world! Just by the power of his words!
I hear people say sometimes that they are very laid back and not affected by insults and comments but i still think everyone has a temper. And I dont think there’s anyone that can endure verbal abuse without eventually snapping.
just some thoughts for the day
“My twa boab”
I’d rather take severe verbal abuse than physical one, as feeling insulted is not as bad as broken bones.
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Bad Karma
mind control
the insult of a stranger telling me that my girlfriend is this and that is for me not reason to break his legs.(besides she’d be at him before I got a look in!)
yes , everybody does have a temper and therefore the ability to lose that temper and lash out but its how you control that emotion that dictates the successful outcome of the situation .
the moment you snap for that split second you lose control .
my old teacher used to say that if someone starts shouting and insulting you take all the energy they can throw your way ,dont shout back
but just smile
and remember the warrior acts , the fool reacts!
(remember reading that somewhere)
Is verbal abuse as bad as Physical?
Verbal…
???
When’s the last time you saw someone knocked out by words? 'Nuff said… 
Maybe there is no “right” answer.
Someone who has been beaten to death by a mob would probably pick DOOR#2 (words) if given the another choice.
Conversely, in a previous age, the loss of ones honor (really amounts to words in both eastern and western cultures) literally meant death. There are many accounts of people accepting suicide as “doing the right thing”.
Duels came down the same path. A careless word might cost you your life or cause you to kill another.
Words can be extremely powerful. The song “Scots Wha Hae” is one of the most inspiring set of words I’ve ever heard. Gets the blood hot, so to speak.
I am sure many of you have seen the movie “The 13th Warrior”, and remember the final battle. You may recall the mantra they recited:
Lo, there do I see my father.
Lo, there do I see my mother
and my sisters
and my brothers.
Lo, there do I see the line of my people
stretching back to the beginning.
Now, they do call to me and bid me
take my place beside them,
In the halls of Valhala,
where the brave shall live forever.
That may have been written by some Hollywood geek, but it sure stands my neck hair up!
SLC, Loved that mantra. Excellent movie.
If a stranger calls you names, or insults a loved one, why should you get upset? They don’t know you, so any insults that are thrown by them have no meaning.
If you get upset by insults, is it because of the insult, or is it because of the grain of truth behind the insult? Only you can perceive that truth because a stranger certainly would not know you well enough to perceive it.
Yes words have power, but they only have the power that you choose to give them. If you call me a useless SOB, then I can either get upset by your words or I could ignore them. If I knew that I was not a useless SOB then why should it worry me?
I’ll shut up now.
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ok
So do any of you guys have any tips on how to not be affected my people that annoy you?
What goes through your mind when you disagree strongly with someone but dont want to get involved in an argument with them?
How do do you “let it slide”?
“My twa boab”