IronFist vs. Wing Chun forum

Re: Hi Iron Fist

Originally posted by Rolling_Hand
[B]Todd Shawn Tei has many WC videos for sale.

Good luck…hahaha!!! [/B]

Re: Hi Iron Fist

Originally posted by Rolling_Hand
[B]Todd Shawn Tei has many WC videos for sale.

Good luck…hahaha!!! [/B]

So you bash my Sifu again.

do you REALLY believe you are hurting his school, or his GOOD name in the community? HA

You sit and bash him and God knows how many other people and for WHAT purpose?

Do you even HAVE a purpose in life other than to use up valuable oxygen and space on the earth?!?

Obviously not, perhaps you are one of the rejects from the school who was banished for lying, stealing or some other illegal activity.

Meanwhile, Sifu goes about teaching (as our school continues to grow) , doing good deeds, and becoming an even more prominant person in the community

I think he might be basing it on what he sees from TST. I’ve only seen a little of him, and wasn’t too impressed. But then without touching hands…you really don’t know do you?

Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes straight to the bone.

Originally posted by Vankuen
[B]I think he might be basing it on what he sees from TST. I’ve only seen a little of him, and wasn’t too impressed. But then without touching hands…you really don’t know do you?

Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes straight to the bone. [/B]

That’s all well and good but Sifu taught me - if I have opinions thats fine but I keep them to myself. as I posted before,

I have NEVER wtnessed Sifu bashing someone. In fact He invites other Sifus to our school so we can see what else is out there and even IF he disagrees with their teaching he is RESPECTFUL of them while they are there AND after they leave.

things I read on this board are malicious, rude and hurtful to me.
I have seen Sifu Tei help MANY people in MANY ways

Digging up old posts.

Kungfugrrrl,
You might wish to note that the post in question was made over 2 years ago. Rolling_hand, the poster in question, was banned awhile back (note it says “banned” under his name). So this person has already been addressed. You might want to consider such before bringing things back to everyone’s attention :smiley:

If Ironfist uses his muscles, he will be ownzord.

However, if he brings up lineage, he will crush the Wing Chun forum.

Re: Digging up old posts.

Originally posted by Sandman2[Wing Chun]
Kungfugrrrl,
You might wish to note that the post in question was made over 2 years ago. Rolling_hand, the poster in question, was banned awhile back (note it says “banned” under his name). So this person has already been addressed. You might want to consider such before bringing things back to everyone’s attention :smiley:

Perhaps the moderator should remove old posts, I didnt bring anything up
And if the info is STILL out there, than people are hearing negativity about My Sifu,

therefore I am obligated to respond and put some light on what I feel needs to be addressed
perhaps I will just start reporting all negative BASHING re MY Sifu to the moderator and such people will be booted.

I READ a post that was on this board.

Im happy he was booted

Kung fu Grrrl,

Although you hold your sifu in high regard (which is a good thing) you must understand this is a public forum and the laws of free speech apply here (up to the moderator’s discretion of course…). Everything from praise to bashing can be found on here, and it is up to the members of the forum to do with that information what they choose. They can believe what they want and dispute what they want. But the banning of negativity would be a negative thing in and of itself. Just like yin and yang, a lot of times you need both to get a clear picture. Not to say there is anything negative about your sifu to be known.

Have you ever heard the phrase “bad press is better then no press?” Here is a hypothetical example in this case: If someone had never heard of TST, and saw this post…that might incline them to seek out his information or his school, and contrary to the reason that brought them there they may like what they see and study under him. So you see, not all negativity, contrary to it’s surface, is bad.

Originally posted by Vankuen
[B]Kung fu Grrrl,

Although you hold your sifu in high regard (which is a good thing) you must understand this is a public forum and the laws of free speech apply here (up to the moderator’s discretion of course…). Everything from praise to bashing can be found on here, and it is up to the members of the forum to do with that information what they choose. They can believe what they want and dispute what they want. But the banning of negativity would be a negative thing in and of itself. Just like yin and yang, a lot of times you need both to get a clear picture. Not to say there is anything negative about your sifu to be known.

Have you ever heard the phrase “bad press is better then no press?” Here is a hypothetical example in this case: If someone had never heard of TST, and saw this post…that might incline them to seek out his information or his school, and contrary to the reason that brought them there they may like what they see and study under him. So you see, not all negativity, contrary to it’s surface, is bad. [/B]

Point taken,

Still, I “gotta do what I gotta do” I will NOT sit idly by and let people BASH my Sfiu or ANYone I hold in high regard for that matter. That is ABUSE
Besides my Sifu does not need bad press, he has plenty of good press, so I would not agree on that note.

If someone said to me or others, Well I disagree with his teachings THAT is much different and not as offensive as
what an idiot HAHAHAHA
did you see his videos omg!!!(or other GOSSIP) and if they have the right to BASH well, then I have the right to respond, Im sure if I had time I could dig up dirt on many people who mouth off and post it -

And on other message boards That I visit bashing is NOT allowed, I feel that is a good rule.

There is NO purpose in BASHING. If a person is UNABLE to disagree and have different opinions and have an intelligent discussion they should be reprimanded and that is my opinion.

I have an article coming out in the magazine and afterward I will make a VERY informative post on my Sifu. THEN, I will let it drop, because MUCH positive information will be out and people will then have something to measure all this nonsense to. As for right now , on this site anyway, I have not read any good things about him, only negative, and that is misrepresenting him in my eyes and in the eyes of my Kung Fu brothers and sisters.

This is true, “bashing” is unnecessary in any form. I think, although I did use the term bashing, in retrospect I think I should have used simply positive vs negative information. Not necessarily bashing. So I see your point as well. The phrases like “what an idiot” and such we could do without…but as I read somewhere else on this forum “if we banned all the idiots there would be no one left on the forum!” (Don’t know where that originated from though.)

I on occasion, do have my smart remarks and heated debates, but mostly over personal opinion and not slander of a person. Unless of course I have personal interaction with the person in question. (See anything on Shaolin Do - but please, no new posts)

Is your article going to be in THIS mag? Or another MA mag?

Originally posted by Vankuen
[B]This is true, “bashing” is unnecessary in any form. I think, although I did use the term bashing, in retrospect I think I should have used simply positive vs negative information. Not necessarily bashing. So I see your point as well. The phrases like “what an idiot” and such we could do without…but as I read somewhere else on this forum “if we banned all the idiots there would be no one left on the forum!” (Don’t know where that originated from though.)

I on occasion, do have my smart remarks and heated debates, but mostly over personal opinion and not slander of a person. Unless of course I have personal interaction with the person in question. (See anything on Shaolin Do - but please, no new posts)

Is your article going to be in THIS mag? Or another MA mag? [/B]

Your response is much appreciated.
Yes in Kung Fu mag on stands in Feb.

Back to the subject at hand

Originally posted by IronFist
I’ve studied other arts at different schools before, so I have learned from a ‘real-life’ teacher and practiced with a bunch of different people there. Like I said, I’m not a complete newbie to MA.

Maybe not a newbie to MA, but you said you are a newbie to WC, right?

There is a good deal of WC that can concievably be developed with the aid of books, video and other media. Check out Yip Pui’s website.
He has a correspondance program that might interest you.

But, the heart of WC, chi sau, is very difficult to cultivate without touching hands with someone experienced.

Re: Re: Digging up old posts.

Originally posted by KungFuGrrrl
Perhaps the moderator should remove old posts,

Actually, I am the moderator. Note how it says “moderator” under my name. The post in question, at its very worst, implies rolling_hand doesnt’ think highly of your sifu. While we do ask people to be polite here, people are not required to speak highly of someone else that they don’t think highly of. But that is neither here nor there, I was merely pointing out that you were trying to have an inflammed conversation with someone who hasn’t been on here in a while. :slight_smile: