# Iron Palm

**URL:** <https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/iron-palm/2096>\
**Category:** Shaolin Kung Fu\
**Created:** [May 19, 2001, 5:45am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/iron-palm/2096 "2001-05-19T05:45:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 18, 2001, 5:08am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/iron-palm/2096/21 "2001-08-18T05:08:32Z")

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Dr. Yang 's Book

My Iron palm Brothers -

In Dr. Yang’s book that Willow Palm speaks of so highly has a chapter on Yi Jin Jing Qigong Training and in this chapter are Fist Sets that will enhance your Iron Palm training. The book is very good. It should be part of your martial arts library.

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                 Damian

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/iron-palm/2096/22 "2001-08-21T21:15:50Z")

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Dr. Larry Sanders

My Iron Palm Brothers -

Does anyone know Dr. Larry Sanders out of Austin, Texas? I am inquiring because he has an Iron Palm/Iron Body(Shirt) book on the market and I was wondering if anyone read the book and if it is worth buying a copy. Any assistance would be appreciated.

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           Damian

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2001, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/iron-palm/2096/23 "2001-08-22T20:58:56Z")

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Iron Palm

My Iron Palm Brothers -

Can someone give me an honest answer as to why Iron Palm training,in some styles/circles, done in secret. Does it make a style/system more superior? Is it a sense of selfishness, could it be outdated thinking or greed. In today’s world, Iron Palm training is demanding and, I feel, not too many people like slapping there hands in iron, getting their hands dirty, using jow/making their own jow etc. One does not train as as a warrior for survival as they did way back when. This is a factor, I believe that keeps us from uniting. The art of the Iron Palm will not be around forever and we should, if we want the art to continue, exchange methods, meditation techniques, jow formulas etc. Have a great day my Brothers.

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                Damian

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2001, 3:42am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/iron-palm/2096/24 "2001-08-23T03:42:56Z")

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different families == different trainings

there are several reasons why the trainings are secretive…

1. my family iron palm has stuff in it that has been propagated  
in my family for generations. give it to someone else, and its no  
longer a ‘family tradition’, thus removing some of the elements  
that give us our distinctive flavor.

2. quite frankly, it gives the student something to look  
forward to after tenure in the system. a goal to shoot for.

3. the combination of both 1 and 2 create an ‘esprit de corps’, where  
we all know that very few people do this specific thing a  
specific way… and it gives us a nice warm fuzzy feeling deep inside 🙂

take away stylistic, traditional techniques inherent to a  
system, and it dies.  
give away stylistic, traditional ‘secretive’ techniques  
inherent to a system, and it dies because it gets  
absorbed into other styles.  
what if one day the BJJ mooks decide that they want to learn  
iron palm, which was once mostly secret ages ago.  
ok, a generation down the road they get hip to iron body.  
is nothing sacred?  
i expect very few people to understand this, typically  
westerners, or those who havent been engrained in  
being part of a special group that has high spirits  
and skills.  
keep giving things away and pretty soon we end up  
with one big unwieldy martial art.  
you cant create order from such chaos…  
you can only hope to contain the chaos from spreading.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2001, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/iron-palm/2096/25 "2001-08-23T20:32:28Z")

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cagey\_vet

Thank you for the info. It is very much appreciated.

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            Damian

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