How's your ba du jin/ 8 brocades ?

Originally posted by jun_erh
To me Qigong is for healing. .

thats right…but whenyou take into account yin/yang priciples (core to qigong) the opposite side to that coin becomes ???

cannibalism

The five types of qigong…

…healing is only one catagory. Check out this archive e-zine article I did - I discuss the five types.

that article is just part of the zionist neocon qigong conspiracy. Norman Finkelstein told me so.

jun_erh

Now that you know, we have to kill you. Beware emitting qi attacks. They’ll start out slowly - just a little extra gas, maybe some constipation, and then…:eek:

sorry about my nonsensical response there. I go to a politcal type board and there’s one arab guy who rails against Zionism constantly. I guess I couldn’t help but pick a little of that up.

Also, a great way to get to the heart of the 8 brocades is to use them in your life for sore neck or back or whatever.  In the same way that kung fu has applications.  In fact, when i do the rolling the neck back and forth in my car I get it alot better than when I am doing the full set.  Each one is good for something,  thugh the last one, the calf one, i don't know what the health "application" for that would really be.

     Someone in another thread said that the 8 brocade isn't good for chi building. I think that is actually true.  It's not the same experience as say zang zhuang, which is much more chi building.

I probably don’t have as much experince as you in the broceds, but I’m begging to differ your theory.

Will you tell me your reasons for that??

Also, a great way to get to the heart of the 8 brocades is to use them in your life for sore neck or back or whatever. In the same way that kung fu has applications. In fact, when i do the rolling the neck back and forth in my car I get it alot better than when I am doing the full set. Each one is good for something, thugh the last one, the calf one, i don’t know what the health “application” for that would really be.

     Someone in another thread said that the 8 brocade isn't good for chi building. I think that is actually true.  It's not the same experience as say zang zhuang, which is much more chi building. [/B][/QUOTE] 

Okay. The last form in 8 sections of brocade is jolting the body to shake away illness. It’s basically designed to help increase your ability to withstand disharmony from nature and the universe in general. Emotional and biological illness, basically. If you are around people that just aren’t right, emotional unstable, angry, this is a great way to shake their influence out of your personal space.

You just stand up straight, raise the heels and then jolt down forcefully on bent legs (to take strain off the spine). You can also hop into the air as well.

I work in a building with about 400 people and this one really helps keep me sane. I do the 8 sections almost daily along with Silk Reelers which is a chain form version of 8 sections.

Some of the other points in 8 sections, you may see people rise up on their toes. This works on an acupressure point on the balls of the feet and helps transform sexual energy into more usable chi. Especially in cases of celebacy, you need some way to channel and transform this energy or you’re doomed to a frustrated state that could warp your energy.

I’ll keep that in mind next time I do it thanks

so the difference between step 8 of the brocade and toe raises are where you breathe. In a toe raise the focus is on up, in the brocade the breathing is done on the way down.

how is healing not building qi??

I wasn’t saying that. I was just saying the nature f these two kinds of qigong. You do the 8 brocade and you feel less sore, you feel loose, etc whereas with zhang zuang you get crazy energy. they just have different results

shi dechang was right, the lower stance for that one section is much better. the dipping down and going side to side one.

Originally posted by jun_erh
shi dechang was right, the lower stance for that one section is much better. the dipping down and going side to side one.

Yeah, that’s called shaking the trunk. This is for digestion aid. It basically massages and moves material in the intestines, forcing out hard to digest crap like sugar and red meat as well as any other toxin that may stay overlong in the system.

You don’t haveto get all that low with this one and you get the same effect if you stand up straight and rotate the trunk. You do it sectionally in order to massage just the internal organs. You can place your hands on at different spots on your abdomen and practice rotating on your hands so you don’t lose focus of where you’re massaging. It takes some practice because you’ll tend to want to rotate your trunk on your hips instead of mid abdomen.

It’s especially important to do this exercise when you’re getting over a cold or flu because phlegm hangs around in your intestines for a long time.

Does anyone know of the 8 Section Brocade of Grandmaster Yin Chian Ho and Grandmaster Cheng Tsang Lu?