i dunno…i had hip popping noises from 25-35…after 35 it turned into pain…after 40 it became debilitating to the point I couldn’t kick anymore. don’t know what your deal is but it’s probabably not ‘nuthin’.
there are some knowledgable people here…not a bad place to start for advice, just don’t let it be the only place you get advice about your body.
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1140157]Yeah! That is why for bawang you have to see his pattern over time. He can be blunt and offensive and even seem a bit insulting, but underneath he is just a big naked marshmallow of a man in a jock doing squats and saving the world from fantasy kung fu! 
BTW the first tip off should have been his mother BOLO, she is strong! 
I have tried to point out to him she’s a MAN, MAN! But he lives in his own fantasy world too, just like the rest of us! :o[/QUOTE]
I’ll have to play him at his own game..
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1140157]Yeah! That is why for bawang you have to see his pattern over time. He can be blunt and offensive and even seem a bit insulting, but underneath he is just a big naked marshmallow of a man in a jock doing squats and saving the world from fantasy kung fu!
BTW the first tip off should have been his mother BOLO, she is strong!
I have tried to point out to him she’s a MAN, MAN! But he lives in his own fantasy world too, just like the rest of us! :o[/QUOTE]
I’ll have to try to learn to play him at his own game..
[QUOTE=KJW;1140346]I’ll have to try to learn to play him at his own game..[/QUOTE]
Exactly, just do a search on him, you will find wacky and humorous posts and serious posts! He knows a great deal about Chinese history, albeit from his own perspective. Also, being Chinese, he has a unique and humorous perspective on Western (White) perspectives (stereotypes) on Chinese Martial Arts and China in general. He can appear racist in his comments from time to time, but the general consensus is that he is not!
I give him a hard time on occasion, because his handle means “garlic” in Tagalog. My wife is a Filipina!
Greetings,
Thomas Kurz and Adrian Crook both do variations of the following exercise before going into stretching. They do it with legs closer together. It is very good for the pelvic area and hips. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3QGM4mxHFk
mickey
Just my 2 cents…
one common cause of chronic hip joint popping is “snapping hip syndrome”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapping_hip_syndrome
the thing is, the audible popping can be from structures around the joint or inside it: meaning it can be as relatively benign as the ITB “snapping” over the greater trochanter of the femur, or it can b indicative of a labral tear within the hip capsule;
bear in mind that the hip joint itself is designed primarily for stability, and it’s very difficult therefore to dislocate a hip joint: therefore, excessive hypermobility is not really such a great thing within the joint itself, as it’s contrary to the main roll of the joint (stability in weight bearing); of course, it’s fine to have good flexibility of the muscles around it, but that’s different;
in my personal / professional estimation as a PT, any chronic popping in the hip (or any joint for that matter), is always an issue of some concern: as it suggests either dysfunction within the joint or imbalance of the structures around it, causing abnormal myokinematics, it stands to reason that over time, this can lead to further degeneration and then symptoms of varying types;
also, remember that when u attempt splits, or any sort of movement that requires “stretching”, it’s more likely that the structures that are prone to hypermobiity are the ones that are going to get further lengthened, unless u r very specific at targeting the hypomobile structures, but this is very difficult (Iyengar yoga approach does a great job at this sort of relative isolation); anyway, what ends up happening at times is the stuff that doesn’t move stil doesn’t move, whereas the stuff around it that was already prone to excessive movement now moves even more; of course, I haven’t examined u so I don’t know ur specific situation, but the one thing I’d look at is where in the lumbar spine / pelvis / hips u move from a lot and where u don’t move from at all; that should give some idea of what’s informing the grinding / popping, which, again, suggests some dysfunction in the area;
my suggestion would b finding a PT (or other similar discipline) that looks at things in a similar way to what I’ve described above; or u may try to find a certified yoga instructor (I’d go with Iyengar, hands down, any day); whatever u do, I suggest u do it before pushing urself further into ur splits, as u may b doing more harm than good (or not - u may b perfectly fine, I have no idea); if u r doing something innappropriate, better to ease off bef u do more severe damage - if after getting assessed there is nothing to worry about, any loos u may temporarilly experience will b nothing compared to the time u would b on the bench if u do injure urself;
good luck
[QUOTE=mickey;1140359]Greetings,
Thomas Kurz and Adrian Crook both do variations of the following exercise before going into stretching. They do it with legs closer together. It is very good for the pelvic area and hips. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3QGM4mxHFk
mickey[/QUOTE]
very good for the hips / pelvis what that guy is doing; it’s pretty much what Feldenkreis called the “pelvic clock” - an it’s probably easier to find a certified Feld. practitioner than and African “yoga” teacher, lol
[QUOTE=mickey;1140359]Greetings,
Thomas Kurz and Adrian Crook both do variations of the following exercise before going into stretching. They do it with legs closer together. It is very good for the pelvic area and hips. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3QGM4mxHFk
mickey[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1140363]very good for the hips / pelvis what that guy is doing; it’s pretty much what Feldenkreis called the “pelvic clock” - an it’s probably easier to find a certified Feld. practitioner than and African “yoga” teacher, lol[/QUOTE]
Movements stolen from dance I might add!:mad:
[QUOTE=mickey;1140359]Greetings,
Thomas Kurz and Adrian Crook both do variations of the following exercise before going into stretching. They do it with legs closer together. It is very good for the pelvic area and hips. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3QGM4mxHFk
mickey[/QUOTE]
lol, i thought pron was illegal to post here 
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1140362]one common cause of chronic hip joint popping is “snapping hip syndrome”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapping_hip_syndrome
the thing is, the audible popping can be from structures around the joint or inside it: meaning it can be as relatively benign as the ITB “snapping” over the greater trochanter of the femur, or it can b indicative of a labral tear within the hip capsule;
bear in mind that the hip joint itself is designed primarily for stability, and it’s very difficult therefore to dislocate a hip joint: therefore, excessive hypermobility is not really such a great thing within the joint itself, as it’s contrary to the main roll of the joint (stability in weight bearing); of course, it’s fine to have good flexibility of the muscles around it, but that’s different;
in my personal / professional estimation as a PT, any chronic popping in the hip (or any joint for that matter), is always an issue of some concern: as it suggests either dysfunction within the joint or imbalance of the structures around it, causing abnormal myokinematics, it stands to reason that over time, this can lead to further degeneration and then symptoms of varying types;
also, remember that when u attempt splits, or any sort of movement that requires “stretching”, it’s more likely that the structures that are prone to hypermobiity are the ones that are going to get further lengthened, unless u r very specific at targeting the hypomobile structures, but this is very difficult (Iyengar yoga approach does a great job at this sort of relative isolation); anyway, what ends up happening at times is the stuff that doesn’t move stil doesn’t move, whereas the stuff around it that was already prone to excessive movement now moves even more; of course, I haven’t examined u so I don’t know ur specific situation, but the one thing I’d look at is where in the lumbar spine / pelvis / hips u move from a lot and where u don’t move from at all; that should give some idea of what’s informing the grinding / popping, which, again, suggests some dysfunction in the area;
my suggestion would b finding a PT (or other similar discipline) that looks at things in a similar way to what I’ve described above; or u may try to find a certified yoga instructor (I’d go with Iyengar, hands down, any day); whatever u do, I suggest u do it before pushing urself further into ur splits, as u may b doing more harm than good (or not - u may b perfectly fine, I have no idea); if u r doing something innappropriate, better to ease off bef u do more severe damage - if after getting assessed there is nothing to worry about, any loos u may temporarilly experience will b nothing compared to the time u would b on the bench if u do injure urself;
good luck[/QUOTE]
yea…what he said.
Sometimes when we ask for advice we have to expect bluntness. Sometimes there is really no way of telling someone what you think without being a little blunt. But again, you asked for it, so take it in stride.
My advice is to stop doing it. It shouldn’t really cause you a problem until just before you go in for your first hip replacement. The human body is built a certain way, and it requires a great deal of stretching and abuse in order to get it to do certain things. These things may not hurt you for years, but realize that you grow older with each day, and eventually you will see the er of your ways.
If you have to train hard in order to do something, it will never serve you well. You will have to continue to train at it just to be able to keep it. Then comes the days when you can not do it as well, then not at all. Then you have another problem with all the damage you have done over the years.
My advice to you, and it is the best advice on this subject you will get, is to only do what you can do easily. Things you can do without harming yourself in the long run, and things that you can expect to do when you get old.
try a few rounds of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKKhF-vR2E
if it doesn’t work out, at least you get the consolation prize of added boner.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1140434]try a few rounds of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKKhF-vR2E
if it doesn’t work out, at least you get the consolation prize of added boner. :)[/QUOTE]
There was a tv show back in the 80’s with just that very thing! I think it was on showtime or usa network or something like that. I just remember I had a buddy who watched it all the time. Since I didn’t get that channel makes me think it was a pay channel or I would have watched it all the time and I would remember it better.
[QUOTE=mickey;1140359]Greetings,
Thomas Kurz and Adrian Crook both do variations of the following exercise before going into stretching. They do it with legs closer together. It is very good for the pelvic area and hips. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3QGM4mxHFk
mickey[/QUOTE]
All the lines of the style I do do that same exercise, and I trained a variation of Chen style in Henan that did that a lot. I used to get hip popping, largely from bad body mechanics in the approaches I was doing, and that solved it, not as an physical therapy in the healing sense, but by entraining proper motion of the entire region in relation to motion. Mind you, the version we do is not left just to circles, but applied to any motion of the hip, and has some detail work that makes the usage make sense.
The main popping I used to get in my hips was after I kicked, and as I was setting my leg down, and it was purely because the structure and the motion were at odds. The structure didn’t need fixing, the motion did. Fortunately, I fixes the motion before the structure did need fixing!
Hi KJW,
“Hip popping”, could be O.K.. Hip “grinding”, Not O.K..
People’s hip structure varies, person to person. People who drop into splits with ease prove nothing beyond what they can do themselves. They may be set up genetically to have an easy time of it, they may be ignoring subtle or even obvious signs that they will be limited in their movement in the future.
Splits and high kicks ‘cold’? Great trick for showing off at parties…value in life? Debatable skill.
Listening to and interpreting the signals your body is giving you about what your mind is involved in?
Priceless, individual, and non debatable skill.
Good luck.
Spiralstair