# Hardwork108 and lkmfdc **URL:** \ **Category:** Southern Chinese Kung Fu\ **Created:** [March 2, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399 "2009-03-02T06:58:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/41 "2009-03-03T17:17:40Z")
that’s nervous laughter and we all know it 😃 don’t open any strange emails for the next 6 to 10 months… ---
**Author:** ![Hardwork108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hardwork108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hardwork108)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/42 "2009-03-03T17:22:05Z")
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;919143]that’s nervous laughter and we all know it :D[/quote] My laughter is a “knowing” laughter.😉 > [@lkfmdc](#): > > don’t open any strange emails for the next 6 to 10 months… Please don’t email me any of your “kung fu”:rolleyes: DVD adds. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/43 "2009-03-03T17:23:21Z")
trying to act tough until the very end huh :rolleyes: I’ll be seeing you in cyberspace 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Exadon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/exadon/32/888_2.png) [@Exadon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Exadon)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/44 "2009-03-03T17:26:34Z")
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;919146] Please don’t email me any of your “kung fu”:rolleyes: DVD adds. Thank you.[/QUOTE] I might be picking up the DVD now that it is 15$ off. It got pretty good reviews. Hey lkfmdc (btw your status of ‘banned’ throws me off haha) can you provide a screen shot showing the ISP of hardwork and the 2007 Troll? ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/45 "2009-03-03T17:29:46Z")
there is a Klingon saying “revenge is a desert best served cold” I"m letting him chill before I drop the bomb 😃 I’m also busy sending him emails LOL 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Exadon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/exadon/32/888_2.png) [@Exadon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Exadon)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/46 "2009-03-03T17:35:20Z")
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;919153]there is a Klingon saying “revenge is a desert best served cold” I"m letting him chill before I drop the bomb 😃 I’m also busy sending him emails LOL :D[/QUOTE] hahaha cool. something to look forward to. ---
**Author:** ![golgo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/golgo/32/878_2.png) [@golgo](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/golgo)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/47 "2009-03-03T17:38:51Z")
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;918771]if you leave mommy’s basement, you can meet real women, oh, wait, then they’d be able to see you in person… stick to internet porn[/QUOTE] Why must they be mutually exclusive? I prefer to have my cake and eat it too. ---
**Author:** ![Hardwork108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hardwork108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hardwork108)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/48 "2009-03-03T17:38:58Z")
[QUOTE=Exadon;919150]I might be picking up the DVD now that it is 15$ off. It got pretty good reviews.[/quote] I have seen the “good” reviews as well in the link that lkfmdc provided but I haven’t seen them attributed to anyone in particular. Who wrote those reviews? > [@Exadon](#): > > Hey lkfmdc (btw your status of ‘banned’ throws me off haha) can you provide a screen shot showing the ISP of hardwork and the 2007 Troll? He can certainly provide you with quotes THAT HE HAS WRITTEN HIMSELF! Just like all of the false quotes he has made on my behalf! ---
**Author:** ![Exadon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/exadon/32/888_2.png) [@Exadon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Exadon)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/49 "2009-03-03T17:41:19Z")
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;919161]I have seen the “good” reviews as well in the link that lkfmdc provided but I haven’t seen them attributed to anyone in particular. Who wrote those reviews? [/QUOTE] MK I believe watched them first hand , and gave a full review on the dvds [QUOTE=Hardwork108;919161] He can certainly provide you with quotes THAT HE HAS WRITTEN HIMSELF! Just like all of the false quotes he has made on my behalf![/QUOTE] Time will tell ---
**Author:** ![Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@Drake](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Drake)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/50 "2009-03-03T17:58:35Z")
I can’t tell which thread is which anymore… they all seem the same now… ---
**Author:** ![Exadon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/exadon/32/888_2.png) [@Exadon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Exadon)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/51 "2009-03-03T18:00:38Z")
[QUOTE=Drake;919172]I can’t tell which thread is which anymore… they all seem the same now…[/QUOTE] I know same here. The threads are fun to read…but can we keep it in one thread? hahaha exp since a lot of the replies are copied and pasted…it is hard to tell what thread I am in! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Hardwork108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hardwork108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hardwork108)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/52 "2009-03-03T18:02:45Z")
[QUOTE=Exadon;919164]MK I believe watched them first hand , and gave a full review on the dvds[/quote] Yes I remember that Master Killer said that he liked them but I am talking about the quotes that were provided by lkfmdc himself (through a link that he posted). > [@Exadon](#): > > Time will tell Don’t tell me you are falling for lkfmdc’s tricks. He doesn’t know who I am. Yet he keeps posting supposed quotes from my sifu…lol. Previously to that about a year ago he doctored some of my actual posts by adding anti semetic comments to them. The fact is that he does not like people who promote the authentic kung fu approach and call “modernists” like him Glorified Kickboxers (which they are). He is here to promote his kung fu tagged kickboxing gym and to sell his DVDs and he sees people like me as threat to his profits. That is why he keeps on the lies and deceptions, all to discredit all that I post about authentic kung fu training so that he can continue to SELL what he teaches as a “better” or “improved” kung fu system. Having said that, his DVD may indeed be a good as far as kickboxing is concerned. Anyway, I did my best to explain the situation to you.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/53 "2009-03-03T18:18:38Z")
:rolleyes: [QUOTE=Hardwork108;919161]I have seen the “good” reviews as well in the link that lkfmdc provided but I haven’t seen them attributed to anyone in particular. Who wrote those reviews? He can certainly provide you with quotes THAT HE HAS WRITTEN HIMSELF! Just like all of the false quotes he has made on my behalf![/QUOTE] You are a complete idiot, but once again you’ve been CAUGHT gee, who wrote the reviews? Uh, how about the people who wrote them :rolleyes: [Ben Gash](http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39636) [masterkiller](http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42759) [Nick Forrer](http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=582407&postcount=97) just as examples :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![hskwarrior](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/hskwarrior/32/612_2.png) [@hskwarrior](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/hskwarrior)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/54 "2009-03-03T18:25:02Z")
[B]Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post there is a Klingon saying “revenge is a desert best served cold” I"m letting him chill before I drop the bomb I’m also busy sending him emails LOL [/B] FOOLS!!! ITS A SICILIANO MAFIOSO SAYING…revenge is a desert best served cold HA! phucking KLINGONS! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Exadon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/exadon/32/888_2.png) [@Exadon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Exadon)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/55 "2009-03-03T18:28:04Z")
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;919176] Don’t tell me you are falling for lkfmdc’s tricks. He doesn’t know who I am. Yet he keeps posting supposed quotes from my sifu…lol. [/QUOTE] I like lkfmdc (even though he blames my Sifu for the return of satan and the corruption of all things holy! haha) and I have no beef with you. I just find it fun to watch the drama unfold. It passes the day. I personally think if 80-90 of the people on the forum would get along with each other just fine if they ever happen to meet in person. (even UKI!) If you look at Sifu-Abels fight with Anthony, you see at the end where they hugged and were very respectful. Internet forums bring out the worse in all of us. [QUOTE=Hardwork108;919176] Previously to that about a year ago he doctored some of my actual posts by adding anti semetic comments to them. The fact is that he does not like people who promote the authentic kung fu approach and call “modernists” like him Glorified Kickboxers (which they are). [/QUOTE] While I don’t know about the doctored post, I had posted a video of students in our school sparing (as well as doing a staff form and another red sash form from our school) He gave it a pretty good comment if I recall, saying something like -He always liked said form from Goh’s- I think you have to take Authentic Kung fu with a grain of salt. I also love to see “Authentic Kung fu”…but what is Authentic in MA now a days? Every art changes with time. [QUOTE=Hardwork108;919176] He is here to promote his kung fu tagged kickboxing gym and to sell his DVDs and he sees people like me as threat to his profits. That is why he keeps on the lies and deceptions, all to discredit all that I post about authentic kung fu training so that he can continue to SELL what he teaches as a “better” or “improved” kung fu system. [/QUOTE] to be fair ( and I mean this with all due respect) I don’t see you as being a threat to his sales. For one reason or another many people view you as a troll, and not only in this fourm. Also, have you viewed his DVD for a true review? I thought (and could be wrong) that his DVD teaches a system that he was taught. Not something he pulled from thin air. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Hardwork108;919176] Having said that, his DVD may indeed be a good as far as kickboxing is concerned. Anyway, I did my best to explain the situation to you.:)[/QUOTE] In the end, I would not take anything said here to heart. I am only a yellow sash. A freaking yellow sash. That translates into 4+ months experience in Gong-fu? Why does my opinion…or any one on this forum matter? If you truly wish to clear your name and prove he is lying you could always post your true name, and your videos, ( and so on) or just ignore him if you feel no need to prove yourself. EDIT: . P.S. I thought San Da was Chinese Kick boxing? I like Authentic Gong Fu as much as the next Gong Fu lover…but Gong fu just means CMA. CMA includes San Da…a form of Chinese kick boxing (or so I thought?) ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/56 "2009-03-03T18:38:03Z")
“hardwork” you have to now add Exadon to your list of “liars” who mischaracterize you :rolleyes: [QUOTE=Exadon;919194] For one reason or another many people view you as a troll, and not only in this fourm. [/QUOTE] quoted for truth ---
**Author:** ![hskwarrior](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/hskwarrior/32/612_2.png) [@hskwarrior](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/hskwarrior)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/57 "2009-03-03T18:44:07Z")
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahmM2fm\_JJk](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahmM2fm_JJk) ---
**Author:** ![Hardwork108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hardwork108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hardwork108)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/58 "2009-03-03T20:18:52Z")
[QUOTE=Exadon;919194] and I have no beef with you. [/quote] I know that you don’t.🙂 You have always been a fair and polite poster. > [@Exadon](#): > > I just find it fun to watch the drama unfold. It passes the day. I know that too.😃 > [@Exadon](#): > > I personally think if 80-90% of the people on the forum would get along with each other just fine if they ever happen to meet in person. (even UKI!) That statement is true for the most part, however as far as lkfmdc is concerned he does not seem to be able to make a post without putting in a couple of untrue statements inside. That is not something that is excusable not even in an internet forum. > [@Exadon](#): > > While I don’t know about the doctored post, I have no reason to lie about it. There are people in this forum who participated in that ugly prank but will probably not manifest themselves because nowadays you cannot criticise MMA-ists and go against the “fashion”. > [@Exadon](#): > > I think you have to take Authentic Kung fu with a grain of salt. Actually it is the “modernized” and “new and improved” kung fu that should be taken with a grain of salt.😉 > [@Exadon](#): > > I also love to see “Authentic Kung fu”…but what is Authentic in MA now a days? Every art changes with time. And authentic kung fu has been changing during hundreds of years at the hands of real maters who had profound knowledge of a given style(s). However, nowadays a lot of the changes are coming from Jack of Trades knuckleheads who have not understood, let alone master any given kung fu style. > [@Exadon](#): > > to be fair ( and I mean this with all due respect) I don’t see you as being a threat to his sales. I don’t view myself a threat to his sales either but from his constant character assassination attempts,it seems that it is fair to assume that the little man calling himself lkfmdc, does! The stuff that he teaches are in fashion and there should be plenty of people willing to pay for his “services” and good on them. My problem with people such as him is their use of the kung fu tag. > [@Exadon](#): > > For one reason or another many people view you as a troll, and not only in this fourm. The “many” people you mention are mainly MMA-ist knuckle heads (who shouldn’t be posting here in the first place) and some of their “kung fu” friends. > [@Exadon](#): > > Also, have you viewed his DVD for a true review? I thought (and could be wrong) that his DVD teaches a system that he was taught. Not something he pulled from thin air. That would be good question for lkfmdc to answer.LOL. > [@Exadon](#): > > In the end, I would not take anything said here to heart. I am only a yellow sash. A freaking yellow sash. That translates into 4+ months experience in Gong-fu? Yet some of your previous comments have been more sensible than many of these Jack of All Trades’ comments on kung fu. > [@Exadon](#): > > Why does my opinion…or any one on this forum matter? Well a kung fu forum is about discussions (about kung fu) and opinions are part of the discussion as long as they don’t revolve around the “benefits” of BJJ and MMA in every other conversation. > [@Exadon](#): > > If you truly wish to clear your name and prove he is lying you could always post your true name, and your videos, Post my true name so that lkfmdc can make accusations that I am a racist antisemetic and other vile stuff, using my real name. No way! And as far as videos go most of these guys wouldn’t know real kung fu if it fell on them. Kickboxing and MMA is just about their limit. So no point there either. Also, I don’t see why putting up all that info is going to do to clear my name. Lkfmdc has been inventing lies about me since I started posting against the Glorified Kickboxers. Many here have realised that he is an immoral poster and a liar. So he is the one who should be clearing his name. > [@Exadon](#): > > ( and so on) or just ignore him if you feel no need to prove yourself. I do ignore him sometimes but sometimes it is good to come out and put him into his place. > [@Exadon](#): > > [QUOTE=EDIT: > > . P.S. I thought San Da was Chinese Kick boxing? I like Authentic Gong Fu as much as the next Gong Fu lover…but Gong fu just means CMA. CMA includes San Da…a form of Chinese kick boxing (or so I thought?) You are correct. However in time you will be able to see the difference between lkfmdc’s San Da and the real stuff. You can check the Chinese Sanda fighters on YouTube and compare them to lkfmdc’s “stiffs”. I will explain to you later about what I mean by “stiffs” as it is not what you may think that I mean.;)🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/59 "2009-03-03T20:21:55Z")
LMFAO… can’t help yourself can you? Logged on as the original troll screen name, then needed to post a response, so suddenly that screen name logged off and you logged back on :rolleyes: [I think we found the source of your problems](http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=917981&postcount=1) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hardwork108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hardwork108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hardwork108)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399/60 "2009-03-03T20:27:04Z")
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;919311]LMFAO… can’t help yourself can you? Logged on as the original troll screen name, then needed to post a response, so suddenly that screen name logged off and you logged back on :rolleyes: [I think we found the source of your problems](http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=917981&postcount=1) :D[/QUOTE] Christ! Now you are promoting Butt-Plugs. Is it a case of giving them away to anyone who buys one of your DVDs. Or is it because you are a insestant user of butt plugs and if so, don’t your knucklehead boy friends get jealous?😃 [Previous page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/hardwork108-and-lkmfdc/45399.md?page=4)