YUm YOU are Right Bro The Hakka
YUM YUM 
Steeeve
Hi Yum Cha,
Yes, you are right. Most branches of Futshan () Pak Mei are from student(s) of Ha Hon Hung () like Qiu Taisheng () who taught Qiu Wu () and Liu Shaoliang (). Liu ShaoLiang’s son Liu Weiji () runs now the school "Liu Shaoliang the memorial hall”( ) where Pak Mei is taught.
Although Ha Hon hung is now better know for his Yau Kung Mun, he has been teaching Pak Mei for a long time. He was a very accomplished martial artist that got a hight degree in martial arts at the Guangdong fine martial sports club (). There are several branches of Pak Mei that trace back to Ha Hon Hung. Like the branch of the book Pak Mei of ZhiZui Wong. Ha Hon Hung had a large school in Guangzhou like the in 1924 established school “Pearl River Guo Shu society, Ha Hon Hung sports club” () and so not that strange had he had many students.
His Yau Kung Mun was as far as I know mainly taught after is move to HK…Didn’t know that was to avoid conflict, thought they in HK just liked more Yau Kung Mun
What Lineage in Pak Mei was H.B.Un the author.
regards Holymantis:D
“Ho Ban Un” was a student of Cheung Lai Chun. He lived for a while in the UK and did some teaching there. And of course wrote the most well-known Pak Mei book.
You can find him in the Pak Mei lineage chart at:
http://www.pakmei.org/table.htm
(green part in Chinese 17th from top)
Cantonese : (Jy)un Hou Ban
Pinyin : Ruan Hao Bin
Hi Fung Ngan,
Thank you for your replie.
will take a look there.
regards roy:cool:
[QUOTE=Fung Ngan;897303]“Ho Ban Un” was a student of Cheung Lai Chun. He lived for a while in the UK and did some teaching there. And of course wrote the most well-known Pak Mei book.
You can find him in the Pak Mei lineage chart at:
http://www.pakmei.org/table.htm
(green part in Chinese 17th from top)
Cantonese : (Jy)un Hou Ban
Pinyin : Ruan Hao Bin[/QUOTE]
I can’t seem to see the link you have kindly provided on my computer. Are there any of Un Ho Bun’s students shown on the chart?
Thank you in advance.
Lai See,
Un Hou Ban (Pinyin Ruan Haobin)
His students from lineage chart:
Wong Wong Bou (pinyin Huang Huangbao)
Mou Fong Sang (pinyin Wu Fangsheng)
Mou Si Koeng (pinyin Wu Shiqiang)
Mou Gun Kwan (pinyin Wu Guan Gun)
Mou Gun Hung (pinyin Wu Guanxiong)
Mou Gun Yang (pinyin Wu Guanyang)
Mou Wong Hin (pinyin Wu Huangxuan)
Mou Juk Sang (pinyin Wu Yusheng)
Hope it helps.
www.pakmeipai.nl
This is very kind of you, thank you again.
I wonder how this site recognises members of the lines? Is it by submission and consequent acceptance and addition or not,. It is most interesting nonetheless.
Sorry to trouble you.
By your attached website, I shall say ‘proost’!
How do they assign their lineage?
I think they do it by both submission and their own reckoning.
For example, our lineage is attached to the Har Hon Hong. Har was Sigungs SiHing, but sigung studied with both CLC and Lam Yu Gwai in the earliest days of the Pak Mei Pai, granted, he was a young fellow.
Originally, it was published as such, but somewhere along the line, they slipped in Har Hon Hong. I have often wondered what the reason was.
Also, there are now two different associations for Pak Mei, perhaps 3. Each represents its own membership in the manner it prefers as well, and I’m not sure they all agree.
Nevertheless, it is a valiant attempt to make order from chaos, and to recognise and organise the Pai into a coherent structure. The effort those guys are putting into it, considering the widespread nature of the membership is a blessing to the style and the memory of Grand Master CLC.
You are indeed correct. It is without doubt a marvellous and most interesting chart albeit a slightly confusing one!
I do enjoy your signature, it is most fitting!
Unless you are a student or friends with multiple teacher it would be hard to compare good bak mei.
In Guangzhou a large Bak Mei school is taught by Siu Ting Fun. His bak mei differs from most in Yuen Long Hong Kong. The difference in the kiu, Siu Ting fun stresses more the tendons on the kiu & woon ging vs in Yuen Long it is still the chum, tun,toe from the dan tian.
With Siu Ting Fun his ging explosion from the dan tien is alot faster into his kiu and woon.
[QUOTE=once ronin;901891]Unless you are a student or friends with multiple teacher it would be hard to compare good bak mei.
In Guangzhou a large Bak Mei school is taught by Siu Ting Fun. His bak mei differs from most in Yuen Long Hong Kong. The difference in the kiu, Siu Ting fun stresses more the tendons on the kiu & woon ging vs in Yuen Long it is still the chum, tun,toe from the dan tian.
With Siu Ting Fun his ging explosion from the dan tien is alot faster into his kiu and woon.[/QUOTE]
Ai-Yaa
Ronin knows something about Pak Mei! Some of my Sifu’s old homeboys…
Sui Ting Fun was part of Hap Ging Do, there’s a branch in Calgary, Lau Sifu, and he has a son in Canada somewhere too, I believe…
Sui Ting Fun himself has a lot of Dragon too.
Ever learned any?