OK, you guys are misinterpreting me, and it’s more than one of you so it’s my fault, although I resent Serpent’s remark. The training that you are doing is good. And, there’s no way to train for taking a knockout punch without it unfortunately happening. Just thinking along the lines of, be aware that there is a whole other level of getting stung. Because what you are describing, like the jaw bone hurting after 2 weeks, is pretty normal during training, not that that should be happening all of the time. Again, Ironfist was nervous after getting knocked down, I’m saying he came back up with plenty of energy so indeed, he should expect to have to deal with an even higher level of pain should he decide to compete.
And that’s a much nicer remark than saying, “Come back and talk to me when you’ve been KO’d!” Surely you can see the superiority and arrogance of your previous post?
As for the subject, my talking about my jawbone was in reference to the fact that the punch didn’t even make me pause, yet two weeks later I’m still feeling it. Thereby indicating that I’m a lot more used to taking hits than someone else might be. It doesn’t belittle or enhance the nature of a KO, it’s just an example.
And while you can’t train for a KO without being KO’d, continued training will make you more and more able to take harder and harder hits, thereby removing the shock of being stung and reducing the risk of a KO.
Seven, perhaps. I just think having a more assertive mindset is an essential first step. It makes for greater gains early on, IME.
so instead of the rollback, you’d rather train him to sidestep first? I agree with that.
Having a stronger neck could possibly help his speed and dexterity when moving around punches etc, but stregthening the neck I think is the wrong way to approach how to defend vs getting punched. That said, making your neck stronger should be a part of everyones routine at some point. Will also help when you get into the grappling IF.
We call those wall drills, some people call it progressive sparring.
Rear foot against the wall, allowed to move, but always has to be in contact with wall. You not allowed to hit back. 1st round vs opponents lead hand only, 2nd round vs opponents rear hand only, 3rd round vs both. Switch. Then go into the ring and draw a line, do the same thing and allow both people to move about freely but not cross the line, 1st round with lead only, etc. So on and so on.
Do whatever this punching in the head drill is more and more, and try to not get hit so much ![]()
You might also pick up some bob and weave drills, and ducking, just some random things you can work on on your own.
And keep your guard up! ![]()
Actually I was just trying to be concise. And I meant in the sense of, come back when you get KO’d so we can commiserate properly. I’m in a constant b!tch mode about my head injury.
Originally posted by fa_jing
Actually I was just trying to be concise. And I meant in the sense of, come back when you get KO’d so we can commiserate properly. I’m in a constant b!tch mode about my head injury.
What’s the injury?
It’s called “second impact concussion”
I got a mild concussion, then took shots to the head two weeks later in sparring. I started to feel bad immediately, but it progressively got worse. When I woke up the next day, I had second impact syndrome which is swelling on the brain. This is a known medical phenomena, usually happens when a person gets concussed, then gets in a car accident and bumps their head again a couple of weeks later. If you have a really bad case or bleeding on the brain, then they have to drill a hole in your head. Fortunately that was not necessary.
Moral of the story - be careful and if you get hurt, do some research and wait until you are fully healed.
I’m still recovering from the injury - haven’t been to a class in 4 months.
so you decided not to take up taiji?
Actually I’m planning on starting in February, but I’ve discovered the beauty of having more time in my life. Plus the weather’s been extremely cold.
who are you gonna be training with?
Dr. Wu Shih-Cun, 5413 N. Clark Street, Chicago, IL. He’s written 8 books on Taiji in Chinese and English. I’ve been to him for acupuncture about 10 times on recommendation from another sifu, which is how I know him.
I expect it to be more health-focused than martial - but he does teach all four major styles, two man forms, weapons, etc. Hopefully he’ll hook me up with some Chen-style.
sounds good.
Originally posted by fa_jing
[B]It’s called “second impact concussion”
I got a mild concussion, then took shots to the head two weeks later in sparring. I started to feel bad immediately, but it progressively got worse. When I woke up the next day, I had second impact syndrome which is swelling on the brain. This is a known medical phenomena, usually happens when a person gets concussed, then gets in a car accident and bumps their head again a couple of weeks later. If you have a really bad case or bleeding on the brain, then they have to drill a hole in your head. Fortunately that was not necessary.
Moral of the story - be careful and if you get hurt, do some research and wait until you are fully healed.
I’m still recovering from the injury - haven’t been to a class in 4 months. [/B]
Dayum. No wonder you got a permanent bitch mode going on!
Get well soon, eh.
I think its great that you get punched in the head, Ironfist. I think it will really improve your fighting skills. Stop trying to dodge and just let them punch you in the head really hard.
Originally posted by morbicid
I think its great that you get punched in the head, Ironfist. I think it will really improve your fighting skills. Stop trying to dodge and just let them punch you in the head really hard.
Obviously quoting from experience there, morbicid. It’s apparent from every post you make.
Yes, I realize that I will have to deal with harder punches. But I want to be introduced to lighter ones before I start dealing with really hard ones.
IronFist
You should play more kick ball ironfist. It will get u used to headshots because kids like to throw the ball at your head to get you out (even though it’s NOT allowed!!). It usually isnt too hard though, so you’ll get a variety of head shots. Light ones. Medium ones. Some hard ones. Then when you go into a boxing ring, after a long game of kick ball, you’ll be like Hey, this is like playing kickball.
Originally posted by IronFist
[B]Yes, I realize that I will have to deal with harder punches. But I want to be introduced to lighter ones before I start dealing with really hard ones.
IronFist [/B]
That should be the way it’s done. Otherwise their taking the piss. ![]()