# Fu-Jow Pai

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**Category:** Southern Chinese Kung Fu\
**Created:** [July 8, 2000, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816 "2000-07-08T14:27:00Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 8, 2000, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/1 "2000-07-08T14:27:00Z")

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Does anyone know if there are any Fu-Jow Pai Kwoons or practioners in the Southern California area?

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2000, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/2 "2000-07-08T20:30:00Z")

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Anyone know of any Fu-Jow Pai instructors in california at all? I have always wanted to see this style ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2000, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/3 "2000-07-10T14:37:00Z")

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\<BLOCKQUOTE\>\<font size=“-1”\>quote:\</font\>\<HR\>Originally posted by loquito:  
Does anyone know if there are any Fu-Jow Pai Kwoons or practioners in the Southern California area?[/quote]

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 7:41am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/4 "2000-07-11T07:41:00Z")

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Sifu Wai Hong gives seminars on Fu Jow Pai throughtout the United States. Sifu Paul Eng teaches Fu Jow Pai in California. Hope that helps.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 7:54am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/5 "2000-07-11T07:54:00Z")

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Quickness,

Thanks for the info.

Do you know if Grandmaster Wai Hong has ever given a seminar in California?

And would you know where Sifu Eng teaches in California?

Respect,  
loquito

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 8:08am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/6 "2000-07-11T08:08:00Z")

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Fu Jow Pai is mostly an East Coast thing, but I THINK Paul Eng is in Campbell, CA.

[This message has been edited by MoQ (edited 07-12-2000).]

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 10:25am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/7 "2000-07-11T10:25:00Z")

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kookyguy:  
There is a set of 2 videos out by ESPY called the 1988 and 1991 Masters’ Demos. It is a collection of New York-area and other areas’ sifus/students. Fu Jow Pai is demo’d briefly in both tapes.

Also, remember that show The Vanishing Son? Russell Wong, the star, was a practitioner of Fu Jow Pai and sometimes did bits of forms in the show. His sifu was Tak Wah Eng of NYC.  
Jim

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/8 "2000-07-11T10:43:00Z")

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I appreciate all the leads.

I am pretty certain Sifu Paul Eng primarily teaches a Mantis form, but I will double check.

How about are there any Fu-Jow Pai transplants now on the West Coast/Southern Cal area?

Respect,  
loquito

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/9 "2000-07-11T13:09:00Z")

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Thanks for the all the help gang ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) I have been to Paul eng’s school but he seemed too old school for me I had to talk to the students sifu eng just smiled and walked away from me ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif) but mabey ill go check him out again , It was many years ago that I went to his school things may have changed ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/10 "2000-07-11T19:20:00Z")

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Sifu Paul Eng teaches praying mantis but he also teaches Fu Jow Pai to select students. Kookyguy, you should come by our school again. What specific questions do you have? Sifu is very traditional but he will answer questions for you. My name is Peter and I train at the school. If you want, I can talk to sifu and perhaps we can all sit down and chat.

He just finished teaching us a Fu Jow Pai form recently. I seriously doubt that he would teach a new beginner a Fu Jow Pai form because it’s unfair to the other students. The best day to come and sit down is Saturday and perhaps one of us can demonstrate a form for you to see. When did you visit our school?

Sifus specialty is praying mantis but he worked his butt off in his early years when he first learned Fu Jow Pai to develop a good foundation. Our school is in Campbell which is in the Bay Area. You can check out our homepage at  
[http://www.earthworks.com/eng/](http://www.earthworks.com/eng/)

The page is very old and not very well done. We are working on a new page. I hope this helps.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2000, 5:56am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/11 "2000-07-12T05:56:00Z")

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Hi Peter it was about 6-7 years ago that i came by the school. Do you think Sifu Eng would teach Fu Jow Pai privatly? All the students seemed pretty good when i was there. Ill have to come by again and check it out again ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) Thanks for the info Peter ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2000, 6:49am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/12 "2000-07-12T06:49:00Z")

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Peter,

I wasn’t aware that Sifu Eng taught any Fu-Jow Pai. Good to hear that there is a little Fu-Jow out on the West Coast.

Would you happen to know the name of the form he was teaching?

I am in S.Cal but next time I am up your way I will do my best to swing by the Kwoon.

Thank you for the info.

Respect,

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Sifu will not teach Fu Jow Pai privately. In fact, he does not give any private lessons at all. That would be unfair to the other students who have put in their time and hard work. He would also feel awkward if he taught a stranger by private lesson because it would be sort of " selling" his art. I hope you understand this. People have emailed about private lessons and the best thing sifu told them was to check in a motel here and join the school to learn a 7 star mantis form and the applications that go with it. We just finished learning the Fu Jow Pai form called Tiger Claw. Sifu does teach Fu Jow Pai, Hung Gar and Northern Shaolin. He has a very good understanding of those arts from his previous training but he has dedicated the last 20-30 years strictly to 7 star praying mantis. He does not claim to be a specialist in any other styles other than 7 star mantis. In my opinion, he is very more than qualified to teach the other styles as well as his 7 star. For him to teach the forms from the other styles, he has to go back and study his notes which takes a lot of his time. The last time he taught the other styles was more than 20 years ago. Before teaching us the Fu Jow Pai form, he had to study his notes for a week or so. He would never do this for a stranger unless it was under special circumstances. That’s why he doesn’t just teach a style other than 7 star mantis to people that he doesn’t know. I hope this helps.

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Thanks for the post Peter you just saved me a trip down there hehe ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) Your Sifu is very good from what i have seen but i was only interested in Fu Jow Pai. Good luck in your training Peter and again thanks for the info ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2000, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/15 "2000-07-12T15:20:00Z")

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Hey Enlightment Will you ask your sifu if the school in Taylor Michigan is still there. I looked at the web page and it says there is a school here .

I would like to learn for a little bit 7 star for about 6 months. I live in Taylor MI right now ,but will be moveing back to Flordia in 7 months, please ask thanks.

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Matrix, What do you mean “the” school? My sifu only has one school. Perhaps you are referring to one of the Tai Mantis branches in Michigan? What website?

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Thats is what i was refering to.

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We do have a Tai Mantis branch in Michigan under sifu Lay Fuy Yen. Whereabouts in Michigan, I do not know. What webpage are you talking about?

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We do have a school in Taylor, Michigan. I just checked. I don’t know how much you will learn in just 7 months but you can try it.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2000, 7:07am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fu-jow-pai/1816/20 "2000-07-13T07:07:00Z")

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COULD you ask you SIFU WHERE it’s at in TayloR mi.

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