I am trying to be frank with you Frank. You may be proud of yourself being the “authorized” historian of the American Hung Sing School, the oldest and the best in America (so you claimed), but you have not got a clue about the history, the tradition, the art and the protocols of CLF. You cannot even figure out the CLF couplets or the family lineage of your school. I could have been a mine full of information for you but you really blew it and missed the opportunity.
Let this episode to be a lesson to you, young Frank. In future, please respect others, especially those of your CLF family, even though they may not agree with you or don’t belong to the same lineage as you are and especially those who are older than you are. We may not be as physically strong as you are, but we have more life experience and we can run rings around you if you force us to.
The time is not ripe and I will not be surprised that you will write another defiant reply. But for me, enough has been said; this is my 101 posting, a good number to finish with. So good-bye my young friend, do have a good life ahead of you.
Frank - you’re quiet. Have you finally decided to shut up and go to do some real research?
Joseph - Please don’t leave the forum. Your wealth of knowledge and your candid honesty is not only refreshing, but it’s appreciated by an awful lot of people. Believe me, a lot of people that are not actively involved in these discussions are reading along and, I’m sure, learning a lot.
Sisuk, we need people like you, otherwise the rabid lunatic ravings of McCarthy will be the only things heard and over time people might actually begin to believe him! Of course, the empty vessel makes the most noise, but people are easily led these days.
well, no i am not staying quiet and no i am not doing any research. i am letting you think you hAVE won. you all don’t know what i know, but assume i don’t know anything. but i let you talk all the **** you want. because in the end it is my gung fu skill that will survive. it isn’t about the history. when it comes down to the basics, how good is your fighting skills.
some of you will say “it’s not about fighting” but i will say that is b.s. martial arts are an art of war, not art of health. many of you took up a martial art for self defense. if you had nothing to fear then why would you need to defend your self. so, without knowing what i actually know, keep talking your ****.
it doesn’t matter. the chan side of things got it all mixed up. joseph is a warrior inside of a closet. serpent is his pet. neither of you have the nuts to reveal yourselves so we may check your big claims. for one joseph claims to be a student of tong sek, but rejects him and his history.
who the hell is slurpent anyway? or joseph? if you are not well known in the clf world, then why are you speaking up.
fran
“graceful staff flies above like a dragon wiggling it’s tail-strong fist releases out like a tiger raising its head”
That’s it Frank - when you have no facts and no case, just shout about how good a fighter you are. That will reassure people that you’re the one with the truth.
You know, in truth you don’t know anything about me or Joseph, but rather than consider us useful for information and discussion about an art that we all share, you just shout and rant and rave like a loony.
You’re becoming quite well known in the CLF world yourself, Frank, but you’re known as a fool, the family clown, the village idiot. Yeah, man - notoriety is very important.
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That’s the whole frickn’ point dude. Lets see some stats. Or else crawl back in your hole snake!!!
Frank has got balls unlike the slimey serpent. He posts his name, his sifu’s name and lineage on the forum and stands up for his schools history.
What’s your problem, Fu-Pow? Are you desperately hoping that we’re unimportant so that you don’t have to believe us?
Frank publicised himself, and now everyone knows who he is and what an idiot he is. More fool him.
It makes no difference who we are, so long as the facts are discussed and some kind of constructive information comes out. But you and Frank and all the other juveniles (mainly you and Frank!) would rather shout and holler and insult us and accuse us of being anonymous, instead of just discussing the relevant information.
I’m not a practitioner of CLF, but I have been watching these threads get longer, specifically the one’s posted by Frank, Joseph, and now Serpent. This debate goes round and round, with neither parties budging on any of their views.
Frank, you can’t convience Joseph and Serpent.
Same goes for the other two. You cannot change Franks’ views or what he says on this forum. He believes what he believes, and you believe what you believe. It’s up to everyone else watching to decide which versions they are going to believe.
Frank has put out his credentials for all to validate. Doesn’t matter what he says is correct or not, if he’s legit he’s legit. Whereas neither one of you have shown your credentials to validate what you are saying is correct or not. If you are looking to show that what you are saying IS correct and what Frank says is not, we need proof of who you are and if you have a leg to stand on in regards to the history of CLF.
Isn’t this the way it’s done to see if a Sifu is legit? If you were to join a school to learn from a teacher, wouldn’t you ask who taught him so you could verify the information that was going to be taught to you was real? That’s what we are asking, how did you get your knowlege? Is it verifiable?
I’m not trying to take sides, just someone who has been watching and learning out of curiosity.
i know you are not coming to my aid, but i thank you both for your voices. at least there are some people have the guts to stand up for themselves.
as you both have said, i have stated my real name, my chinese name, and who my teacher is and what my fmaily lineage is.
i know i get excited on these posts, but coming from san francisco you have to go from 0-60 at the drop of a dime. that is why i always put up my gung fu to fight, out here you have to be a fighter or you get eaten up.
i know i have touched on some sensitive subjects but no harm was intended. only to **** off joseph and slurpent.
once again, thank you for acknowledging what i have done here.
if you have been following any of my posts, i have never told the history as i have it written it down. but it will come out. i will not put it on this forum because of the likes of joseph and slurpent. the rest of the people on this forum can thank them that, because i would have shared if not for them hating us so bad.
thanks again
fran
“graceful staff flies above like a dragon wiggling it’s tail-strong fist releases out like a tiger raising its head”
Unless you’ve crossed hands with Frank, you have no idea what he can do, so quit the rhetoric.
Joseph and I are not the same person. I’d love to know who Joseph is as I respect him enormously. His knowledge is awesome and I would love to get to know him, but I respect his privacy.
What you say about knowing the credentials of a teacher is indeed true. But some of us would rather protect our teachers from the mudslinging and ranting that is going on here. I’m not tryoing to teach anybody anything. I’m disputing baseless facts yelled out by a paranoid, raving lunatic. It takes very little research to see that Frank shouts very loud, but has very little substance. Forget about checking up on me or Joseph - check the facts!
The facts and details are there for anybody to justify and check. All the available information is out there. Oh, except Frank’s of course - he just repeats what other people say if it suits him, ignores what other people say if it doesn’t fit his paradigm, and offers to fight anyone that questions his methods.
i am sorry, was it a tumor?
i would never wish cancer on anyone. not even you or joseph. so i am only concerned. this is what i heard and i was told not to be so hard on you because of that.
take care
“graceful staff flies above like a dragon wiggling it’s tail-strong fist releases out like a tiger raising its head”
Oh, I see! This is an attempt by you to pretend that you know me somehow? Poor effort, Frank - way off. I’m perfectly healthy thanks.
Of course, if you’re trying to scare me in some way, suggesting that you know things about me that I don’t, then you’re even lower scum than I thought.
