# for hop gar and lama brothers

**URL:** <https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/for-hop-gar-and-lama-brothers/8880>\
**Category:** Southern Chinese Kung Fu\
**Created:** [January 24, 2002, 5:09am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/for-hop-gar-and-lama-brothers/8880 "2002-01-24T05:09:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![RAIN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@RAIN](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/RAIN)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2002, 5:09am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/for-hop-gar-and-lama-brothers/8880/1 "2002-01-24T05:09:09Z")

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i want to know if anyone knows a form from hop gar system called in english " the animals " . i 'd learn this form from a lama pai master but i don’t get the chinese name or the history of the form .  
the form begin whit a kiu sao in bow stance and have a sequence of four ground rolling strikes and a lot of long range fists .

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**Author:** ![HopGar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@HopGar](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/HopGar)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2002, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/for-hop-gar-and-lama-brothers/8880/2 "2002-01-24T14:56:23Z")

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what is a kiu sao? mind you I’m in Hop Gar and know all the basic forms. If ya can describe, I can tell which form it is.

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**Author:** ![RAIN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@RAIN](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/RAIN)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2002, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/for-hop-gar-and-lama-brothers/8880/3 "2002-01-24T15:57:21Z")

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kiu sao is a technique very used in hung gar . is like a tigerclaw with the first finger extended .  
maybe i’d was wrong and the form belong to another system .  
i 'd think was hop gar .  
but the certain thing that is style that combine lama pai whit hung gar .

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**Author:** ![Steven\_T\_Richards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Steven\_T\_Richards](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Steven_T_Richards)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2002, 12:20pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/for-hop-gar-and-lama-brothers/8880/4 "2002-01-25T12:20:46Z")

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Rain,

It depends on the lineage in question, there is great diversity. Some say Wong-Fei-Hung exchanged his 5-animal techniques with Wong-Yin-Lum for WYL’s long-arm techniques.

Maybe…

My own lineage in Lion’s Roar ha svery fast and fluid long arm techniuques, only superficially similar to the Hung-Gar that I have studied as a disciple of a Hung-Gar Master.

It seems that the Tibetan Tradition is so diverse that you find what you find and not necessarily what you look for.

Steve.