[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;878682]You’re right Drew. Ali is 6’4"- 6’6". I don’t know the metric…lol.[/QUOTE]
And that’s one of the smartest things that one can do at this moment…
Ali Rahim.
6-4
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;878674]Tough cowards???..lol. I’m not going to touch that one.[/QUOTE]
And thats one of the smartest things that one can do at this moment
Ali Rahim.
[QUOTE=Ali. R;878686]And that’s one of the smartest things that one can do at this moment…
Ali Rahim.[/QUOTE]
I chose not to go there to be civil. 
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;878687]I chose not to go there to be civil. ;)[/QUOTE]
How very cosmopolitan… :rolleyes:
Ali Rahim.
Ok tough cowards LOL
To take this a little further and to keep on topic…
Do you appraoch (mentally/physically) bigger opponents differently than same size guys ?
What are some of the tactics and/or strategies of VT i might see the two of you employ against a much bigger/stronger opponent ?
I think keeping/maintaining good distance, being even further than what you would use with a similar sized opponent, is important. (keeping to the original post :)) Stepping back maintaining distance at first.
Im not staying away all the time of course - because i must get close to attack, so Bridging in and out must be quicker and more effective, i tend to be more mobile.
My heaviest actions are my right hand and elbows which i look to set up off knee stomps/kicks and VT jabs which if done clean are very sucessful against bigger guys than me…
I dropped a tough KBer friend of mine with a good knee shot off a punch, whos bigger by
30 - 40 pounds and stronger. But im sharper…inch power. 
DREW
For me, it’s about bringing down larger opponents at the knees. If I were to have the distance, a well-placed kick would either bring the opponent down or hopefully “stop-hit” them in a fashion for a good follow-up.
Theorizing over :p,
Kenton
Lassie vs. Bruno
I also feel if one is truly educated in his or her art, and did not take any short cuts within their training, they will be able to deal with all kinds of situation
But if the smaller guy is more skilled he will have a better chance against someone with a higher center of gravity: like a Pit-bull vs. a Collie, going straight in underneath to the throat… Sake baby sake!
Ali Rahim.
Bullseye…or not?
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;878209]Everything in a fight is relative. Don’t live in a box. You definitely don’t want to charge down the middle of an extremely larger opponent though. ;)[/QUOTE]
Anyone ever watch a Matador vs. a Bull in a Bullfight?
Funny thing is…if the Matador turns and runs, or steps back…its his @$$. Usually you see these guys hold thier ground. Can’t put the saber in the neck if you are moving back. And these guys examplify ‘grace under pressure’. Nothing ‘controlled’ about that environment.
On the other hand…its always the Rodeo ‘Clowns’ that run away and get thrown, trampled or impaled.
Now that I think about it…Id love to see a Matador learn some Wing Chun Kung Fu and have the same mentality as when he is staring down the eyes of a charging Angus.
Love, Peace & Chitlin’ Grease,
~Cg~
Holy Crap!
“Now if any man can stand up to a charging bull, why can’t a man stand up to a bigger man without facing him or her”?
Like I said, “no one is stopping you but yourself”…
Ali Rahim.
It really isn’t comparable. The bull is a quadruped with ‘limited’ offensive capabilities namely it’s horns, mass and speed. It has a certain amount of agility but can’t slip and turn as quickly as a human. It doesn’t engage in deceit/feinting so it is almost like a train on a track. If the matador is reading the bull’s posture correctly then he should be on top of the situation.
I’d like to see a human go barehanded against an enraged gorilla or chimpanzee.
primates go straight for the nutz and bite , biting off testicles , biting off fingers and anything else they get hold of…not nice ..ergo rules of engagement …we ‘higher minded’ :rolleyes: primates have rules.
dont eat the opponent and or rip his nutz off : rules eh ?
Id rather face a bull than a monkey or a gorilla any day , gored or eaten ,hmmmm let me think SLAP !! dont think RUN 
Missed the point.
[QUOTE=CFT;878752]… If the matador is reading the bull’s posture correctly then he should be on top of the situation…[/QUOTE]
And there is absolutely no reason why this is not true of two men facing each other in a fight. Why be conflicted? Fear and indecisiveness are mind-killers.
You either face the attack and fight or you turn and run (flight) Trying to do both will just make you a dear in the headlights.
[QUOTE=k gledhill;878755]primates go straight for the nutz and bite , biting off testicles , biting off fingers and anything else they get hold of…not nice ..ergo rules of engagement …we ‘higher minded’ :rolleyes: primates have rules.
dont eat the opponent and or rip his nutz off : rules eh ?
Id rather face a bull than a monkey or a gorilla any day , gored or eaten ,hmmmm let me think SLAP !! dont think RUN :D[/QUOTE]
Don’t think…run…is right!
It’s not fight or flight…it’s flight OVER flight. We lasted this long because we (as humans) felt a greater need in the pit of our being to run than stand and fight the lions, tigers and bears.
Oh my!
Whatever…
[QUOTE=couch;878759]Don’t think…run…is right!
It’s not fight or flight…it’s flight OVER flight. We lasted this long because we (as humans) felt a greater need in the pit of our being to run than stand and fight the lions, tigers and bears.
Oh my![/QUOTE]
Humans had to eat didnt they?
[QUOTE=CFT;878752]It really isn’t comparable. The bull is a quadruped with ‘limited’ offensive capabilities namely it’s horns, mass and speed. It has a certain amount of agility but can’t slip and turn as quickly as a human. It doesn’t engage in deceit/feinting so it is almost like a train on a track. If the matador is reading the bull’s posture correctly then he should be on top of the situation.
I’d like to see a human go barehanded against an enraged gorilla or chimpanzee.[/QUOTE]
Being mentally ready is the ideal of engagement far as fighting up the middle (grace under pressure), either you stand there or you dont, its your choice fight or run and reset, and watch your opponents momentum snow ball down hill into something that you will never begin to control Stop it in its infancy before it reaches its incline
[QUOTE=CFT;878752]If the matador is reading the bull’s posture correctly then he should be on top of the situation.[/QUOTE]
Everything that you said about the matador and bull is correct, but there are people out there that are just as bad as the bull when it comes to: agility, can’t slip, doesn’t engage in deceit/feinting; that been fighting for years, and I can count them on two sets of hands
Ali Rahim.
Mentally it’s very comparable…
[QUOTE=CFT;878752]It really isn’t comparable. The bull is a quadruped with ‘limited’ offensive capabilities namely it’s horns, mass and speed. It has a certain amount of agility but can’t slip and turn as quickly as a human. It doesn’t engage in deceit/feinting so it is almost like a train on a track. If the matador is reading the bull’s posture correctly then he should be on top of the situation.
I’d like to see a human go barehanded against an enraged gorilla or chimpanzee.[/QUOTE]
Being mentally ready is ideal the of engagement far as fighting up the middle (grace under pressure), either you stand there or you don’t, it’s your choice fight or run and reset, and watch your opponents momentum snow ball down hill into something that you will never begin to control… Stop it in its infancy before it reaches it’s incline…
[QUOTE=CFT;878752]If the matador is reading the bull’s posture correctly then he should be on top of the situation.[/QUOTE]
Everything that you said about the matador and bull is correct, but there are people out there that are just as bad as the bull when it comes to: agility, can’t slip, doesn’t engage in deceit/feinting; that been fighting for years, and I can count them on two sets of hands…
Ali Rahim.
Mentally it’s very comparable…
[QUOTE=CFT;878752]It really isn’t comparable. The bull is a quadruped with ‘limited’ offensive capabilities namely it’s horns, mass and speed. It has a certain amount of agility but can’t slip and turn as quickly as a human. It doesn’t engage in deceit/feinting so it is almost like a train on a track. If the matador is reading the bull’s posture correctly then he should be on top of the situation.
I’d like to see a human go barehanded against an enraged gorilla or chimpanzee.[/QUOTE]
Being mentally ready is the ideal of engagement far as fighting up the middle (grace under pressure), either you stand there or you dont, its your choice fight or run and reset, and watch your opponents momentum snow ball down hill into something that you will never begin to control Stop it in its infancy before it reaches its incline
[QUOTE=CFT;878752]If the matador is reading the bull’s posture correctly then he should be on top of the situation.[/QUOTE]
Everything that you said about the matador and bull is correct, but there are people out there that are just as bad as the bull when it comes to: agility, can’t slip, doesn’t engage in deceit/feinting; that’s been fighting for years, and I can count them on two sets of hands
But yet, man is much smaller then the bull I find that very ironic that one will stand up to a bull, but not a bigger man
Ali Rahim.
Missed the point
[QUOTE=Graychuan;878761]Humans had to eat didnt they?
[/QUOTE]
We’re talking about two different things. And that’s okay.
For real?
Come on guys, I think you’re being incredibly simplisitc if you are saying any type of step (other than forward) should be considered “flight” or running away. Name a single fight, MMA or Boxing, where the fighters NEVER stepped backwards or to the side. Its a bit ridiculous, it happens all the time, in every fight I’ve ever seen… Distance is key, you don’t just “stand your ground” like a statue. I think that suggetion is a little absurd. I do see the point you are making about needing to have “heart” to fight, you certainly can’t be thinking about running from a bigger guy and still have the confidence to win. I think you just went a little overboard on the analogies there at the end… Courage & Grace under pressure are definately very, if not the most, important factors in those situations, but I don’t think thery’re incompatible with using footwork to be elusive. Structure can only withstand so much, better structure can withstand more pressure than a poorer structure, but it still only goes so far… Getting hit by a bus is “getting hit by a bus” no matter how slow its moving, or how correct your structure is. Thats my 2 cents anyway.
[QUOTE=WoodenYummy;878769]Come on guys, I think you’re being incredibly simplisitc if you are saying any type of step (other than forward) should be considered “flight” or running away. Name a single fight, MMA or Boxing, where the fighters NEVER stepped backwards or to the side. Its a bit ridiculous, it happens all the time, in every fight I’ve ever seen… Distance is key, you don’t just “stand your ground” like a statue. I think that suggetion is a little absurd. I do see the point you are making about needing to have “heart” to fight, you certainly can’t be thinking about running from a bigger guy and still have the confidence to win. I think you just went a little overboard on the analogies there at the end… Courage & Grace under pressure are definately very, if not the most, important factors in those situations, but I don’t think thery’re incompatible with using footwork to be elusive. Structure can only withstand so much, better structure can withstand more pressure than a poorer structure, but it still only goes so far… Getting hit by a bus is “getting hit by a bus” no matter how slow its moving, or how correct your structure is. Thats my 2 cents anyway.[/QUOTE]
I’m sorry, I don’t follow that sport, and I don’t fight for points…
[QUOTE=WoodenYummy;878769]but I don’t think thery’re incompatible with using footwork to be elusive. Structure can only withstand so much, better structure can withstand more pressure than a poorer structure, but it still only goes so far.[/QUOTE]
That’s when one should adjust with bridge contact when striking which is a advantage fighting humans, where as the matador had no bridge and still stood his ground… Mentally it’s very comparable…
Ali Rahim.