# Fake XingYi. **URL:** \ **Category:** Taijiquan and the Internal Martial Arts\ **Created:** [August 23, 2004, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503 "2004-08-23T00:46:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Apostol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Apostol](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Apostol)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/1 "2004-08-23T00:46:39Z")
I’ve seen some XingYi that looks pretty horrid. I saw one sifu’s site, his forms looked entirely external, with the strike going after the step and everything. I mean isn’t that incorrect? Or is it just another family? ---
**Author:** ![Felipe\_Bido](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/felipe_bido/32/122_2.png) [@Felipe\_Bido](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Felipe_Bido)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 1:41am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/2 "2004-08-23T01:41:32Z")
Post the site and we’ll see ---
**Author:** ![Apostol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Apostol](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Apostol)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/3 "2004-08-23T02:57:37Z")
[http://www.mew-hing.com/demonstration.html](http://www.mew-hing.com/demonstration.html) Note, if you go to this school please don’t be offended, I just find it questionable. It could just be an entirely different family. I study the Hebei Hsing Yi system. …actually, after reviewing these videos I’m not sure they’re the ones. I’ll keep looking. ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_alb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@Joseph\_alb](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Joseph_alb)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 10:07am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/4 "2004-08-23T10:07:25Z")
I like his Pao Quan. The man’s gotta be tougher than a coffin nail to expose his balls like that. > …actually, after reviewing these videos I’m not sure they’re the ones. I’ll keep looking. What did you think if his xingyi? ---
**Author:** ![Felipe\_Bido](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/felipe_bido/32/122_2.png) [@Felipe\_Bido](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Felipe_Bido)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/5 "2004-08-23T13:04:37Z")
Why does he say “Pi KWAN”, and San Ti ‘SHE’?..that’s the way it’s written in the books, but pinyin doesn’t sound as it’s written. I think he posts here. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Dugas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/dale_dugas/32/140_2.png) [@Dale\_Dugas](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Dale_Dugas)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/6 "2004-08-23T14:14:12Z")
Ian Prescott The man in question is one Ian Prescott. He “teaches” Hsing-yi and Wing Chun and other things in Pennslyvania. I have showed his little vids to other people who have a better background in Hsing yi and they laughed when they saw him perform. One friend commented that he must have learned from videos and books as he has no concept of how to generate true power via whole body power. I agree with the earlier comment of his exposing his groin…maybe he likes that??? LOL… In Boston, Dale Dugas ---
**Author:** ![LeoV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LeoV](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/LeoV)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/7 "2004-08-23T14:51:04Z")
Sorry, not impressed. I wouldn’t call it “fake Hsing-I”, just Hsing-I not done well, imo. Didn’t see much power being generated by the body. Felipe - I’m surprised you could even hear the names! All the chinese music was drowning out what he was saying. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Felipe\_Bido](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/felipe_bido/32/122_2.png) [@Felipe\_Bido](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Felipe_Bido)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/8 "2004-08-23T16:44:12Z")
> Originally posted by LeoV > Felipe - I’m surprised you could even hear the names! All the chinese music was drowning out what he was saying. 🙂 Maybe that was his intention all along…😉 Hehehe…kidding -Actually, Buddy noted the Pi KWAN thing the first time these videos were posted. Well, he says: San Tishi: San Ti SHE Pi Quan: Pi Kwan Zuan Quan: Suan Kwan Beng Quan: Pung Kwan Heng Quan: Hung Kwan Obviously, he has read the terms but he hasn’t actually heard them. As far as his Xingyi goes…sorry, I don’t see any Xingyi Shenfa (Body method) there. ---
**Author:** ![CD\_Lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@CD\_Lee](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/CD_Lee)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/9 "2004-08-23T18:06:50Z")
In his Pao, his shoulders stay square to the target. Not sure why anyone would do that on purpose. I guess his only power is coming from the step. However did everbody see the warning just before the videos in the web page? > These clips are used to give you a general idea of what to expect in training. I advise everyone to NOT use these clips to learn from, as one or two points have been changed in them to prevent proper ging flow when practicing. This is done to protect the system and the school. Hmmm…maybe. Apostol. I would not call this guy ‘horrible’. I have seen worse. So Apostol - post some good Xingyi you have seen, If you have seen any. ---
**Author:** ![LeoV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LeoV](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/LeoV)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/10 "2004-08-23T18:45:52Z")
Well then I agree the secrets of Hsing-I will be kept hidden… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Felipe\_Bido](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/felipe_bido/32/122_2.png) [@Felipe\_Bido](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Felipe_Bido)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/11 "2004-08-23T19:08:57Z")
Hehehe—😃 ---
**Author:** ![Buddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Buddy](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Buddy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/12 "2004-08-23T20:57:37Z")
Ian and I PMed and he’s a nice guy. He wanted to learn more about Xingyi. I think I’d probably remove the vid, were it me. ---
**Author:** ![Apostol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Apostol](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Apostol)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/13 "2004-08-23T21:20:04Z")
Heh, interesting. I’ll do a video of me doing the fists as soon as I get my camera working. ---
**Author:** ![CD\_Lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@CD\_Lee](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/CD_Lee)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/14 "2004-08-24T18:10:22Z")
You really gonna post yourself doing the fists? Not a bad idea. I’ll bet you’ll get plenty of good feedback. One thing a quick video can do, is show some obvious flaws or variances in technique that you can’t see or someone else may have overlooked. We had a guy in our class that when we got to looking, he had a little ‘hitch’ in his shoulder where he lifted it off his structure slightly during one movement. Very slight, but he was completely unaware he was doing it. And of course, in my case, there are so many things to fix, it will take a long time to fix. A video would only scare newcomers away from this art if they saw me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Apostol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Apostol](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Apostol)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2004, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/15 "2004-08-24T19:18:35Z")
Haha…beware, my pounding fist is terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Apostol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Apostol](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Apostol)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/16 "2004-08-25T00:55:46Z")
Hey guys, I found more clips! [http://www.whitecraneinstitute.com/artsofcombat/xingyi.htm](http://www.whitecraneinstitute.com/artsofcombat/xingyi.htm) I just googled for xingyi out of the blue, and I found this. I’ve never seen it before. Needless to say, it doesn’t look very good, at least the Pi Chuan I’ve seen so far. \*\*Ok, well some of the clips don’t look half bad. The drilling fist is similar to how we do it, but it still looks external. ---
**Author:** ![Apostol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Apostol](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Apostol)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/17 "2004-08-25T01:43:18Z")
Heh, this is more of a joke than a demonstration, but here: [http://home.comcast.net/~apostol/fists.avi](http://home.comcast.net/~apostol/fists.avi) 1. Splitting 2. Drilling 3. Smashing (crushing) 4. Pounding They all pretty much suck. Splitting is my best one. ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_alb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@Joseph\_alb](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Joseph_alb)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/18 "2004-08-25T03:29:54Z")
Video help ALLOT, even for personal viewing. My gfriend shot a clip of me doing Piquan once, and instantly i saw details in my movement i wasnt aware of. ---
**Author:** ![Apostol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Apostol](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Apostol)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 3:47am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/19 "2004-08-25T03:47:57Z")
I think one of these days I’ll dedicate a day to a certain movement so I can get it down. ---
**Author:** ![Felipe\_Bido](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/felipe_bido/32/122_2.png) [@Felipe\_Bido](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Felipe_Bido)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503/20 "2004-08-25T03:58:56Z")
> Originally posted by Apostol > I think one of these days I’ll dedicate a day to a certain movement so I can get it down. Make it a week or more [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/fake-xingyi/28503.md?page=2)