Okay, let’s try this again without all the b.s.
Do you always face your opponent squarely?
Why or why not?
It takes effort to learn to do something effortlessly
define squarely
Receive what comes, Escort what leaves, and if there is an opening, rush in
What I meant was squarely with your shoulders.
It takes effort to learn to do something effortlessly
Thats how I am tought to fight…
IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…
generally facing is done with the waist.
but then again chain punching is low level & inefficient, so again i am more than likely wrong.
vts
Is WH the reason you wrote that?
IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…
Mun Hung
Just because Wiping Hind he is an arrogant, pompous, closed minded ass doesn’t mean you have to alienate him and keep him out of the conversation. Then again, if we all just ignored him, perhaps he would go away.
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chi kwai
no, it seems to be being said by many experts on here that chain punching is low level.
sorry joe, you have to forgive me but i have decided it is no wonder so many people see wing chun these days as being limited when you so many people acting like masters yet not even understanding the most basic principles.
read most peoples answers to things & then ask(for one) what ever happened to economy of motion.
everybody seems to want to over complicate things.
what a shame.
vts
chi kwai
Whoa, buddy! Don’t get me into it. I’m not trying to alienate anyone. I just wanted to hear more on the topic instead of everyone engaging in some unproductive name calling and such. Now maybe we can all have a nice discussion about an interesting topic. Hope it works.
It takes effort to learn to do something effortlessly
You have to be able to be within 45 degrees of facing your opponent in order to reach him effectively with your rear limb, which you have to be able to do to use both arms simultaneously in your techs. Otherwise you can only really fight the opp with one hand.
There are exceptions: You need to be side on to the opp to deliver a powerful side kick, round kick or circular punch or elbow strike. Also in multiopponent situations, you may need to spin or turn your back on one or more opponents momentarily, as well as delivering techniques at angles not required in single opponent fighting. (Credit where due: WH raised this on another thread - a substantive (though very short) post!)
Also, heaven forbid, you may get badly off-positioned by your opp and have to engage some recovery techniques to gain prime position. Or you may end up on the ground, 90% of fights do after all … 
As regards the BS mentioned on the earlier thread by Mun Hung, that’s fair comment. I contributed to the name calling thereon as well as WH, though I don’t believe I started it. He’d probably say that everyone’s answers on there other than his own were BS, but people can and will draw their own conclusions.
Facing is definitively an important part of the system.It does not means to be stupidly rigid but to have a structure that allows the delivery of techniques offensives and defensives.If we dont care about it,why not take up TKD or something !
Les paroles s’envolent.
Les écrits restent!..
VT…I find a great use of chain punches…
IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…
geez joe, you & me must be the only ones who haven’t fought any other expert fighters,you know what i mean- poor us only having such low level techniques in our hands.
vts
hi abman
‘There are exceptions: You need to be side on to the opp to deliver a powerful side kick, round kick or circular punch or elbow strike. Also in multiopponent situations, you may need to spin or turn your back on one or more opponents momentarily, as well as delivering techniques at angles not required in single opponent fighting.’
the key word is momentarily, do you not agree though that you will recover your facing asap?
‘Also, heaven forbid, you may get badly off-positioned by your opp and have to engage some recovery techniques to gain prime position.’
dare i say it but again this is where standing in stance for so long is vital, to be able to recover quickly & without effort means your wing chun should be part of you & unfortunately this is hard for anybody these days with the limited amount of time we have to practice.
also abman, if i can be so rude as to ask where you live, i noticed you have been training about the same length of time as me & it might be cool if we could some day get together & have a play.
vts
oh yeah
I believe that if you have a guy in the right position to just keep hitting why do anything else but chain punching?
Your punches may be powerful enough to knock a guy down or out but if you dont stop untill that happens(even if in the first punch)you will stil keep going to make sure right.
so thats when the chain punching takes place…
plus having non stop fists in your face is extremely frustrating…believe me!! :mad:
IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…
There’s an old saying something to the effect of, if the opponent is skilled, the side is safer, if the opponent is not skilled, the front is faster. Generally, though, if I’m facing my opponent and they’re facing the side (or better still, away ) that’s just fine. 8)
Rgds,
RR
When you face sideways your outside leg is a greater target..
IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…
Looks like I still need to learn to read better before replying 8(. In my previous post, side facing refers to having flanked the opponent (Pien San), while straigt referes to being in front of the opponent (Jing San), not whether I’m standing straight or sideways myself (I tend to stand straight unless my opponent asks for otherwise).
Rgds,
RR
facing
for the most part you do face your opponent squarely, thus having the triangle as your guard for the centerline, but there are a few rare situations where depending on the force you maybe forced to turn your back
I was taught that you may face your opponent many different ways. It all depends on your strategy and/or circumstances.
I’d like to ask again what direction your hips and shoulders face when executing tan-da against an outside punch. Are you still facing the attacker squarely?
It takes effort to learn to do something effortlessly