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[QUOTE=Mas Judt;895501]This is a great example of why I find the martial arts boards so funny, people say stuff that is correct from thier point of view, but is totally f@cking stupid. My Ubuntu based OS is built in Ubuntu - but contains proprietary software creating the OS I described. Something you would get if read the description of the OS - as Ubuntu don’t do that stuff by itself.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it will. I run proprietary software and drivers on my ubuntu machines too.

[QUOTE=Mas Judt;895501]As far as Apple having goofs - good lord yes, but NOTHING on the scale of MicroSofts goofs and fundamental challenges of having to be all things to all people. All of my criticisms of the PC platform are based on practically 20 years of managing groups of people on both platforms. Mac vs. PC? No comparison. Mac wins hands down - if you want to do something besides fix PC’s.[/QUOTE]

You’re a frackin idiot. MAC doesn’t have 1/3 the business software available that MS does. Same issue with any linux distro.

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You’re a frackin idiot. MAC doesn’t have 1/3 the business software available that MS does. Same issue with any linux distro

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I have the same problem.

For example Macs WILL NOT RUN all of these critical programs I use in my home business.

1 ADP Penpro estimating systems

  1. ADP Shoplink

3.Mitchell estimating system.

4 CCC Pathways

5 Apptrak management system

6 IC Image file transfer system.

7 Scene access file transfer system

8 Truck est

9 NADA vehicle value calculator

  1. Edoan - file transfer software.

11 OST Charting & futures trading platform

In the case of point # 10, Macs will not run MOST industry trading platforms across the board. This means that the majority of the financial, investment and banking industry cannot use Macs at all.

All the “File transfer” programs I listed, are used to communicate my files to the client I work for. Without them, I have no business. It doesn’t matter how nice my pictures of wrecked cars are, or ow well I write the estimates on them. If I can’t send them to the client using thier platform I may have well just gone fishing for the day.

I have been in this business for 2 years now, and I have yet to see a file transfer system that works on a mac. I have been in shop offices for5 years now, and i have yet to see a Mac in the office, or ever even heard of one running typical bodyshop software.

Mac lovers go on, and on, and on about how great Macs are, and I am sure they are wonderful, if you are in the marketing biz or some sort of art related persuite like that, but they are absolutely useless (but pretty) boxes of junk for everyone else.

The break just as much as PC’s. From what i hear from guys who actually have to try and make them work, they get viruses just as much, they are harder to trouble shoot and work on, and when they do get hit with a virus, the success rate of recovering from the damage is very low compared to a PC.

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[QUOTE=RD’S Alias - 1A;895538]The break just as much as PC’s. From what i hear from guys who actually have to try and make them work, they get viruses just as much, they are harder to trouble shoot and work on, and when they do get hit with a virus, the success rate of recovering from the damage is very low compared to a PC.[/QUOTE]

I don’t know anything about the app’s you mentioned, so you are probably right that there is no mac alternative. But to say ‘from what I hear’ and then spout nonsense is irresponsible.

49 mac’s total got hit with the BIG virus over the past 2 years. 49.

Read here

Your PC tech just doesn’t know about mac’s, is unwilling to learn, and doesn’t want to have to. That’s why he(she?) is telling you this.

But hey - keep on keeping on with your PC’s. Defrag that drive! Run that spyware software! Watch out for those email attachments! Constantly upgrade ! ( that one kills me, you complain about the cost of mac’s, yet you go out every few weeks to add a new video card, a new sound card, a couple of new hard drives, a new faster processor. lol) don’t really care…:smiley:

-David

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[QUOTE=CLFLPstudent;895550]I don’t know anything about the app’s you mentioned, so you are probably right that there is no mac alternative. But to say ‘from what I hear’ and then spout nonsense is irresponsible.

49 mac’s total got hit with the BIG virus over the past 2 years. 49.

Read here

Your PC tech just doesn’t know about mac’s, is unwilling to learn, and doesn’t want to have to. That’s why he(she?) is telling you this.

But hey - keep on keeping on with your PC’s. Defrag that drive! Run that spyware software! Watch out for those email attachments! Constantly upgrade ! ( that one kills me, you complain about the cost of mac’s, yet you go out every few weeks to add a new video card, a new sound card, a couple of new hard drives, a new faster processor. lol) don’t really care…:smiley:

-David[/QUOTE]

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How did they collect the data about only 49 macs getting a virus? My freind has had several that he cleaned out this last year, I doubt he reported the situation to anyone. If he did 3, are you expecting me to believe some little mom and pop computer business alone got almost 7 of all macs that have been hit by viruses, nation wide? That is statistically impossible! Heck, even doing ONE, on a city wide, let alone a nation wide scale, out of 49 is statistically impossible!!

Also, he’s not the only tech guy I have spoken to that has the same issues with Macs. When every industry pro I have discussed this with, like all the tech guys who remotely installed and/or set up all those above listed programs in my laptop, say the SAME thing about macs, one has to at least consider that the guys who deal with them all the time might actually know what they are talking about.

When I have 10 professional tech guys saying the SAME negative things about Macs, and ONE Mas Judt (who is just a user, not a tech pro) saying the opposite, then I have to consider his testimony the exception that proves the rule.

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http://db.tidbits.com/article/9534 :smiley:

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http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-virus/macintosh-faq/

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[QUOTE=CLFLPstudent;895550]I don’t know anything about the app’s you mentioned, so you are probably right that there is no mac alternative. But to say ‘from what I hear’ and then spout nonsense is irresponsible.

49 mac’s total got hit with the BIG virus over the past 2 years. 49.

Read here

Your PC tech just doesn’t know about mac’s, is unwilling to learn, and doesn’t want to have to. That’s why he(she?) is telling you this.

But hey - keep on keeping on with your PC’s. Defrag that drive! Run that spyware software! Watch out for those email attachments! Constantly upgrade ! ( that one kills me, you complain about the cost of mac’s, yet you go out every few weeks to add a new video card, a new sound card, a couple of new hard drives, a new faster processor. lol) don’t really care…:smiley:

-David[/QUOTE]

I don’t need to talk to a “tech guy” I work in networking/security. I’m willing to bet you didn’t read the article I linked to earlier on this thread. Mac’s safari browser got hacked, while the vista machine had to be hacked via adobe flash.

The link you posted talks allot about malware "By buying a Mac, you’ve already taken the first and best step toward keeping malware off your computer. "

As your market share increases, and more lazy users get macs, you will see an increase. Vistas UAC is going to cause malware and viruses to decline rapidly in the PC sector as well.

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[QUOTE=RD’S Alias - 1A;895581]http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-virus/macintosh-faq/[/QUOTE]

Didn’t read the whole thing - but it was published in 2000. It looks like they are talking about OS 9 and below. It’s like me saying “Windows 3.1 get’s loads of viruses”. But I understand that you don’t know much about macs except that which your PC Tech guys tell you…

[QUOTE=naja;895588]I don’t need to talk to a “tech guy” I work in networking/security. I’m willing to bet you didn’t read the article I linked to earlier on this thread. Mac’s safari browser got hacked, while the vista machine had to be hacked via adobe flash.

The link you posted talks allot about malware "By buying a Mac, you’ve already taken the first and best step toward keeping malware off your computer. "

As your market share increases, and more lazy users get macs, you will see an increase. Vistas UAC is going to cause malware and viruses to decline rapidly in the PC sector as well.[/QUOTE]

Are we talking about hacking or Viruses? On my newer MacBook I don’t use Safari, I use Firefox.

The article talks about a variation of a virus that was written 24 years ago, updated for OS X.

Twenty-four years after Elk Cloner, Leap-A emerged. Disguised as an image file, Leap-A modified files on an infected Mac and, when iChat was opened, would send infected files to the victim’s iChat buddies.

Many people thought at the time that Leap-A signaled the end of OS X’s bug-free idyll. But Leap-A managed to infect a grand total of 49 Macs, and in the two years since, the Mac virus floodgates have yet to open: A few proof-of-concept viruses have cropped up, but almost none have been observed in the wild. Question is, why?

Security expert Bruce Schneier credits the Mac’s small market share: “If you’re looking for the masses of naive users, Windows is where to go,” he says. Adam O’Donnell, director of emerging technologies at Cloudmark, agrees. He’s applied game theory to the question and concluded that producing Mac malware won’t be economically viable until the Mac’s market share hits 16 percent (it’s now under 9 percent). O’Donnell says, “There is no economic benefit to investing the time in compromising a Mac when you can compromise 10 to 20 times more systems for the same level of effort by going after PCs.”

He even say’s that the main reason is because of the small market share. I said good - you guys stay with your PC’s, leave Apples market share low!

Whatever - RD comes on here every few months with computer questions or virus questions and I always tell him to get a mac. His software won’t run on a mac. Fine, be done with it! But don’t think that it’s Apple snobbery when someone point’s out you wouldn’t get nearly as many viruses or hack attempt if you run OS X on a mac.

-David

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[QUOTE=CLFLPstudent;895590]Didn’t read the whole thing - but it was published in 2000. It looks like they are talking about OS 9 and below. It’s like me saying “Windows 3.1 get’s loads of viruses”. But I understand that you don’t know much about macs except that which your PC Tech guys tell you…

Are we talking about hacking or Viruses? On my newer MacBook I don’t use Safari, I use Firefox.

The article talks about a variation of a virus that was written 24 years ago, updated for OS X.

He even say’s that the main reason is because of the small market share. I said good - you guys stay with your PC’s, leave Apples market share low!

Whatever - RD comes on here every few months with computer questions or virus questions and I always tell him to get a mac. His software won’t run on a mac. Fine, be done with it! But don’t think that it’s Apple snobbery when someone point’s out you wouldn’t get nearly as many viruses or hack attempt if you run OS X on a mac.

-David[/QUOTE]

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Yes, I know. And I have told you a million times that MACS do not, cannot run ANY of the software that my business needs. And every time I have some little thing that comes up, some idiot comes on here and tries to sell me on a mac (usually you).

Well, I got news for you, MACS SUCK, and they can’t run common software found universally through out my industry, or most other industries either. They really are NOT more reliable than a properly built PC (especially since most don’t even work in the first place), and the people who constantly spout Mac propaganda really annoy the hell out of me because they go on and on and on as if they have some sort of magic solution to my computing problems when some SIMPLE basic forethought would clearly show they are clueless morons.

HOW MANY F’N TIMES DO i HAVE TO SAY MACS DON’T RUN ANY OF MY SOFTWARE*!!! if they are so dammed great, why is it they can’t run 98% of the software out there?

I have ALSO told you specifically that I know techs WHO DO WORK ON MACS!!! Yet you insist they don’t know what they are saying because you Think they are only PC techs, despite having macs in their shop all the time. In addition, OTHERS have come on this thread and reported the SAME finding I have, and you still insist on the greatness of your Toy.

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The biggest issue I have, is almost ALL MAC people I have ever met are like religious zealots who mindlessly spout thier propaganda EVEN AFTER BEING SHOWN THEY COMPLETELY WRONG!!! over, and over again.

For example, people who routinely tell me I should get a MAC every time I have a minor problem and I post a question about it, despite the countless times I have explained, adnauseum, that macs just don’t have the capabilities I need, in any way, shape or form. They are vastly deficient machines, that won’t even run my Charting software right…yet Mac zealots just keep mindlessly hammering “Get a Mac, Get a Mac, Get a Mac” Like brainwashed drones.

It’s F’n annoying, just shut up already!!!

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lol. OK RD

I won’t tell you to get a mac anymore. But I can’t promise I won’t snicker when I read your next virus post…:stuck_out_tongue:

-David

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Ok, and I won’t promiss not to think your a brainwashed Mac drone for snickering :slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=CLFLPstudent;895635]lol. OK RD

I won’t tell you to get a mac anymore. But I can’t promise I won’t snicker when I read your next virus post…:stuck_out_tongue:

-David[/QUOTE]

oh - now I see why RD flipped his nut on the other thread - I guess I am just the latest in a long line of mindless Mac drones advancing our religious zealotry (and now I have to go plug in and get further instructions from Mother Board)

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[QUOTE=Mas Judt;895501]As far as Apple having goofs - good lord yes, but NOTHING on the scale of MicroSofts goofs and fundamental challenges of having to be all things to all people. All of my criticisms of the PC platform are based on practically 20 years of managing groups of people on both platforms. Mac vs. PC? No comparison. Mac wins hands down - if you want to do something besides fix PC’s.[/QUOTE]

Exactly! (Mother Board told me to say that)

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[QUOTE=Oso;895433]instead of starting another computer thread:

i’m shopping for a laptop. my desktop is 5 years old and i keep getting a crash and getting told (by MS) that I need to upgrade my bios…well, the newest BIOS for my MB is 2003…, which I already had. it’s getting to the point that it’s doing it multiple times a week.

so…first question:

Vista: 32 or 64 bit?[/QUOTE]

Oso, sorry didn’t see this in the storm of other comments. Go with 32 unless you know for a fact that all your software will work with 64.

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[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;895666]Exactly! (Mother Board told me to say that)[/QUOTE]

Quoting MAS Judt:
“As far as Apple having goofs - good lord yes, but NOTHING on the scale of MicroSofts goofs and fundamental challenges of having to be all things to all people. All of my criticisms of the PC platform are based on practically 20 years of managing groups of people on both platforms. Mac vs. PC? No comparison. Mac wins hands down - if you want to do something besides fix PC’s.”

Of course you lame brains!! MACs are used by virutally NO ONE when compared to the amount of MS systems on the planet. OF COURSE MS system are going to have higher percentage of failure. Why would anyone write malware and viruses for an OS that is only used by 2% of the world?? They want to target the bigger platform, but this attitude by MAC folks is what’s getting these mac viruses written. They are written to prove the point that any OS can get hacked, it only takes time and determination.