im not missing your point. i’m just saying that the people who had done the 4 hour training that was not conducted by yourself are worse off now. i feel that their lives are more in danger now than before that ridiculous waste of sixty bucks.
“If an assailant has a knife, a student is taught to grab a jacket and wrap it around his or her arm to prevent getting cut.”
This technique has been around for a while, and is, as far as I know, is recognized as legit. Wu-tan’s uniforms are designed to be taken off easily so you can wrap them around your lead arm in the case of an opponent with a knife.
i was always under the impression that you just consider your arms fu cked and guard your throat and center long enough to kill him or run if you can. a gash accross my forearm cut to the bone might not kill me and hopefully it could give me the chance to kill the fu cker coming at me with a knife.
This might sound daft, but lets say its a terrorist with a knife and no gun, you could always communicate with the people around you and get like 6 of you to charge at him full speed, he might get a cut in but he wont be getting up after that.
i don’t find the fact that they’re learning self defense to be disturbing.
in situations of ‘air rage’ or just flat out psychotic passengers, simple self defense techniques would be a fine thing to know. as for a terrorist seige, well…let’s look at it like this, a terrorist would most likely want to; hold the entire plane hostage or kill everyone. in that situation - against someone who more than likely is willing to die, someone who may have firearms, simple self defense serves almost no role. it turns to kill or be killed. this is the arena of the air marshalls and soldiers even. these are the people that have trained for this and they should be trained/training harder. these are the people that should be in more proficient numbers on flights.
as for the concern of payroll for the air marshalls, most airlines claim it’s too expensive to have a marshall on every flight. i believe this is a crock of sh*t. it would cost a few hundred dollars at most for 1 air marshall per flight. how much is the profit take on 1 commercial flight? what is the yearly profit of a commercial airline?
"Federal Air Marshall Program costs for Fiscal Years (FY) 1994 and 1995 were
$1.3 million and $1.2 million, respectively, and include FAM Program
office staff salaries and overtime; travel (management staff and FAM
cadre travel); transportation; services; supplies; and equipment. "
[http://www.oig.dot.gov/show_txt.php?id=362]
ok not to defend the ‘vulcan grip’ but…
Long ago, before I studied MA, when my sole weapons were a high tolerance for pain, sadism, hairtrigger temper and refusal to lay down and die, I used this one to pretty good effect. My first year of my college it was my job to keep our 260lb borderline alcoholic friend in line. I peaked the scales at 175 at the time. My technique of choice was two fingers hooked inside the clavicle just below the levator scapulae. Press down hard. This invariable worked. It didn’t knock him out. It just got him to sit down suddenly and ***** alot. And most importantly it didn’t even leave a mark. As we have seen in the past months since 9/11, flight attendants deal with an awful lot of unruly people that aren’t terrorists. Sometimes planting a drunk back in his seat without even a mark is a handy thing, especially in this litigeous society.
That being said, any short term selfdefense course not combined with a long term regimen of training is pretty much worthless.
Hee-hee! I used to grab the clavicle when I wrestled. Great hook!
My favorite in college was the trachea grip. Marvelous for fending off drunken, overly amorous dates.
Maybe we should just teach all the flight attendants Mooney’s Empty Force ™, then they could subdue a terrorist and still pour drinks…