I think I may have over-done my training one day, and I was just wondering how you would tell the difference between an injury and soreness. How sore is too sore? I know probably none of you are physical therapists or whatever, but I’m sure that theres quite a few people on here who have been in my position before.
Any advice?
Thanks.
hey dude.
There is a fine line between overtraining and good training. As long as it is not tweaking pain, such as, torn ligament or tendons, or ripped muscles. Using pain itself is hard to judge, as different people tolerate differently.
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Sorry to try to steal the thread, but I’ve got a similar question. Ever since I did hindu squats the other month, the tendons just above my kneecaps (between the quad and the kneecap) have been real sore. it feels really strained whenever I have to squat down for any reason- even if the squat isn’t deep, like getting out of a chair. Stances are murder. The rest of the time it doesn’t hurt. I’ve just been waiting for it to heal & go away. What should I do?
BTW- I’d always heard that any soreness that lasts longer than a couple days is more than normal muscle soreness, and if it still lasts beyond two weeks, it might be a lot more serious.
Just some thoughts from an ignoramus.
Generally, if it hurts too much to do much of anything, you may be nursing an injury. As said before, it’s a fine line. If you can flex a muscle and it makes you want to eat a steak…that’s OK. If it outright hurts, that could be bad.
Hindu squats are OK as long as you are using proper form…however, by their nature they encourage bad form. Just be careful doing them, and if the pain does not subside, discontinue them. You may want to be checked to ensure you aren’t developing tendonitis. Really, when doing squats it isn’t necessary to go beyong parallel.
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Only did them once, a month ago. Did about 50, didn’t get tired, but my knees were popping bad, the whole time. Pain started the next day or so and hasn’t gone away.
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Just some thoughts from an ignoramus.
Popping knees does indeed sound like a tendon thing. My suggestion if you want to continue with these is maybe do perform the reps slower and do less…break them up into sets. Say if you want to do 100, try 5 sets of 20 with one or two minute rest in between.
Your knees may just thank you!
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I only did them one time. I don’t want to do them anymore. I’m just trying to figure out if I should get an MRI or if these things will heal?And if I’m just gonna let them heal, should I be exercising them? Or should I be totally staying sedentary?
Thanks for responding tho..
Just some thoughts from an ignoramus.
No problem. I would think that if the pain persists for more than a few days, get them checked. Otherwise, you can continue to train. For people with knee issues, I usually recommend leg extensions with light weight to start. That will help to build some knee stability. Watch the range of motion as well…if you are lucky enough to have an adjustable arm on the machine, set it so the arm doesn’t go under the seat as far.
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Soy, if your suffering is ongoing or just gets better the day before you’re back in class and it happens again every week then you’ve got an injury.
I wasted 2 years of my training by not getting arm injuries sorted and it took an enormous effort of will to sit back for 6 months carefully strengthening and learning about the issue. I am so glad I took that time out because I have come back 100% enthusiastic. that’s a side effect - if you are suffering like I described, you will come to hate training. I did and that was upsetting because training is a big part of my life. Like I said, I am so glad that it’s in the past, now.
A bit of a waffle but I hope you get my point. Look after yourself.
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Hey everyone, it’s been a few days since I posted this. Thanks for the awesome input! I had a similar problem to the other fellow who posted on this thread. If I had to squat or go up stairs it kinda hurt. But I gave it about 4 days, slept a decent amount and got a good dose of protein/calcium. It feels like it’s healing really well. I don’t think it was an injury at all, just sore. I’ll have to thank my instructor 
I had a condition exactly like this a few months ago when I went paintballing for the first time. And like this one it healed in about the same amount of time. I’ll be sure to try an isolate this muscle group in the future to improve it’s durability
Once again, thanks for the great input!
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My knees are still shot and don’t seem to be getting any better. I’m used to soreness in the tendon below the patella, but this is just above, between the patella and the quad and is much more irritating and limiting in what I can do.
Gotta start running again in the next few days. Losing weight should help my joints.
At least it looks like I’ve got a job soon, so my situation’s lookin’ up.
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Just some thoughts from an ignoramus.
Bananas are good for muscle/joint regeneration!
Isn’t doing stances enough of a squat. Everynight when I get home from class my legs are sore as hell. When I first started I couldn’t walk the next day. I used to lift weights but I found it takes away from overall flexibilty wich seems to be the root of your injuries. I also feel that weights build the wrong kind of muscles for fighting. You do mean squats with weights don’t you?
The “Hindu squat” is basically a non-ballistic version of a jump squat. Hamstrings to calves, press up…weights are usually not used for these since the range of motion is so deep.
If your flexibility suffers from weight lifting, you aren’t stretching…period. That is a major “urban legend” about lifting.
Weight training has improved my martial arts tremendously…when I was in high school and learning karate, I weighed 130 pounds at 5’10" and couldn’t knock out anybody. Now it’s quite a bit different.
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Grrr I don’t like Hindu Squats. Heheheh
Just one question tho, are hindu squats supposed to be done on your tippie-toes, or is Matt Furey just doing bad form in his articles?
Cuz that’s what I did and I’m still hurting.
I’ve never had any problems with weighted squats- just stay limber between sets and u shouldn’t have any problems.
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Just some thoughts from an ignoramus.
i eat about three to six banana’s a day. That’s gotta be bad for me aint it?
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You’re getting a lot of potassium & other vitamins & minerals. The only thing I’d worry about is the added sugar, but I don’t think fruit sugars are nearly as harmful as simple sugars as is found in sodas. Just beware of the calorie intake. Potassium reduces muscle cramping and soreness, so in this capacity, bananas are GOOD!
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Just some thoughts from an ignoramus.