# Dark Knight Rises

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**Category:** Martial Media and Popular Culture\
**Created:** [October 27, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512 "2010-10-27T20:13:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![goju](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/goju/32/896_2.png) [@goju](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/goju)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/21 "2011-01-21T03:01:25Z")

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bah bring back halle berry

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**Author:** ![Zenshiite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8c91f0/32.png) [@Zenshiite](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Zenshiite)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:15am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/22 "2011-01-21T05:15:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Lucas;1073673]You know it. I hope they keep her completely insane. Something about a dangerously violent insane woman in skin tight leather with a thing for dressing like kitty cats…

![](http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/catwoman%20tits.jpg)[/QUOTE]

Dude, Catwoman is NOT insane. She’s a perfectly sane thief and some time hero who fights at Batman’s side.

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**Author:** ![sanjuro\_ronin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sanjuro_ronin/32/793_2.png) [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/23 "2011-01-21T14:02:23Z")

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[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1073813]uh…SJ…you might want to delete those NIPPLE pics.[/QUOTE]

Dude, I got them from a public entertainment website from a “safe” google images search… but if you think I should, ok.

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**Author:** ![GeneChing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/geneching/32/96_2.png) [@GeneChing](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GeneChing)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/24 "2011-01-21T17:20:15Z")

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Spot on, MK…

…that’s what I meant by Julie. ummm…yeah. No nipple shots. :o

☹

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**Author:** ![Lucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lucas/32/819_2.png) [@Lucas](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Lucas)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/25 "2011-01-21T17:42:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Zenshiite;1073828]Dude, Catwoman is NOT insane. She’s a perfectly sane thief and some time hero who fights at Batman’s side.[/QUOTE]

that completely depends on the origin story you like. its a comic, and as such there have been many artists renditions. anyhow i was refering to bro and mines like of michelle as the sexiest. and like it or not that selina kyle was NUTS. go watch it again if you forgot.

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**Author:** ![Zenshiite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8c91f0/32.png) [@Zenshiite](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Zenshiite)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/26 "2011-01-22T21:07:52Z")

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I contend that she had the name “Selina Kyle” and the alter-ego, but she barely resembled her comic book counterpart. In the 40s she was a socialite turned jewel thief… in the 80s to today he origins are as a prostitute turned thief and sometime ally of Batman.

Considering how heavily Christopher Nolan’s movies have drawn upon Frank Miller(Batman: Year One… features Selina as a prostitute inspired by Batman to don a Cat-costume) and Jeph Loeb & Tim Sale(The Long Halloween and Dark Victory… in which Selina has now become a socialite, hob-nobbing and romancing Bruce Wayne and moonlighting as Catwoman stealing from and pestering the Falcone crime family and flirting with Batman)… I have my doubts that he’ll go with the Batman Returns mental-case, possibly supernaturally given life through some kind of cat metaphysical thing that ultimately gave birth to the Halle Barry Catwoman crap fest.. And the Pfieffer Catwoman was used as the model for the Batman The Animated Series Catwoman.. in which they left out the insanity because Catwoman is not insane!

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**Author:** ![mickey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mickey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/mickey)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/27 "2011-01-23T15:35:41Z")

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Greetings,

That is not Julie Newmar, Gene.

Her name is Lee Meriwether. She was the second catwoman.

mickey

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**Author:** ![doug\_maverick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/doug_maverick/32/72_2.png) [@doug\_maverick](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/doug_maverick)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/28 "2011-01-23T17:45:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Zenshiite;1074089]I contend that she had the name “Selina Kyle” and the alter-ego, but she barely resembled her comic book counterpart. In the 40s she was a socialite turned jewel thief… in the 80s to today he origins are as a prostitute turned thief and sometime ally of Batman.

Considering how heavily Christopher Nolan’s movies have drawn upon Frank Miller(Batman: Year One… features Selina as a prostitute inspired by Batman to don a Cat-costume) and Jeph Loeb & Tim Sale(The Long Halloween and Dark Victory… in which Selina has now become a socialite, hob-nobbing and romancing Bruce Wayne and moonlighting as Catwoman stealing from and pestering the Falcone crime family and flirting with Batman)… I have my doubts that he’ll go with the Batman Returns mental-case, possibly supernaturally given life through some kind of cat metaphysical thing that ultimately gave birth to the Halle Barry Catwoman crap fest.. And the Pfieffer Catwoman was used as the model for the Batman The Animated Series Catwoman.. in which they left out the insanity because Catwoman is not insane![/QUOTE]  
in the jeph loeb tim sale version she was also falcone’s \*\*\*\*\*\*\* child i do believe.

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**Author:** ![Zenshiite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8c91f0/32.png) [@Zenshiite](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Zenshiite)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/29 "2011-01-23T18:22:01Z")

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^That sounds right. But she’s still in the continuity of Year One as well, which means she was an outcast from the family and a prostitute.

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**Author:** ![TenTigers](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/tentigers/32/74_2.png) [@TenTigers](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/TenTigers)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 3:28am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/30 "2011-01-24T03:28:43Z")

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[QUOTE=mickey;1074136]Greetings,

That is not Julie Newmar, Gene.

Her name is Lee Meriwether. She was the second catwoman.

mickey[/QUOTE]

dunno-looks more like Newmar to me.

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**Author:** ![mickey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mickey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/mickey)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/31 "2011-01-24T16:46:26Z")

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Hi TenTigers,

That is definitely Lee Meriwether.

Newmar’s relpacement was so seamless, hardly anybody noticed. Lee made Newmar look like an anorexic version of herself. The was similarly done with the actors who played Darren in the show “Bewitched”. It was hard to tell the difference between the two.

mickey

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**Author:** ![GeneChing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/geneching/32/96_2.png) [@GeneChing](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GeneChing)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/32 "2011-01-24T18:15:22Z")

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Lee, is it?

![](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2675098373_d2aab2e736.jpg)

![](http://www.oqdiamondm.com/actresess/catwoman.jpg)  
Know your catwomen.

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**Author:** ![mickey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mickey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/mickey)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/33 "2011-01-25T01:31:03Z")

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Gene and TenTigers,

I stand corrected (kneels, raises arms up, and bows down).

mickey

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**Author:** ![\_PLUGO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/_plugo/32/94_2.png) [@\_PLUGO](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/_PLUGO)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/34 "2011-01-25T02:02:19Z")

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I got to met Julie Newmar a few years back. A very dignified lady who considers her role as catwoman an acting honor. She also did a hilarious imitation of Michelle Pfieffer’s catwoman.

But we would be remiss to not mention Eartha Kitt  
 ![](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2kjisMm3M9Y/SVRjy0zqPRI/AAAAAAAAHbQ/YuL4PpAcZlo/s400/Eartha+Kitt+1966+Catwoman+4.jpg)  
who played the role after Julie Newmar. She was replace with Lee Meriwether for the BATMAN movie when she spoke out against the Vietnam war AT A WHITE HOUSE LUNCHEON.

> [@Eartha Kitt](#):
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> "You send the best of this country off to be shot and maimed. No wonder the kids rebel and take pot. The children of America are not rebelling for no reason. They are not hippies for no reason at all. We don’t have what we have on Sunset Blvd. for no reason. They are rebelling against something. There are so many things burning the people of this country, particularly mothers. They feel they are going to raise sons—and I know what it’s like, and you have children of your own, Mrs. Johnson—we raise children and send them to war.”

As for Selina Kyle’s Origin, some interesting tid-bits:  
As an orphan girl she survived an attempt on her life that involved her being trapped in a bag and thrown into a river.  
Returning to the orphanage she steals all records of her existence but leaves behind enough evidence to have the orphanage shut down and its managers arrested.

From there she spends time on the streets until BATMAN: Year One. Her catwoman antics allow her to buy her way into high society as Selina Kyle.

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**Author:** ![\_PLUGO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/_plugo/32/94_2.png) [@\_PLUGO](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/_PLUGO)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/35 "2011-01-25T19:38:53Z")

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Speaking of Julie Newmar…

“She’s going to be marvelous,” [Newmar said](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/alltherage/2011/01/catching-up-with-the-original-catwoman-julie-newmar.html), even as I questioned Hathaway’s sex appeal. Now Newmar, she understood sex appeal. She made her own Catwoman costume, and was especially keen to have the belt at her hips, instead of her waist, to highlight her hourglass figure, she said. (The costume is now in the Smithsonian Institute).

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**Author:** ![GeneChing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/geneching/32/96_2.png) [@GeneChing](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GeneChing)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/36 "2011-01-25T22:17:25Z")

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Told ya!

Follow DS’s link.

Julie = Catwoman.

Looks like she has a new book coming out. Check out [her official site](http://julienewmar.com/).  
 ![](http://julienewmar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Catwoman-02.jpg)

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**Author:** ![\_PLUGO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/_plugo/32/94_2.png) [@\_PLUGO](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/_PLUGO)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/37 "2011-05-12T18:58:14Z")

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Just in: BATMAN’s ass Kicked.

And we thought Gotham City was tough, who knew the Dark Knight would face [defeat](http://youtu.be/OKv3b9Oi4xA)in the City of Sin; Las Vegas.

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**Author:** ![sanjuro\_ronin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sanjuro_ronin/32/793_2.png) [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/38 "2011-05-12T19:02:12Z")

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LMAO !!!  
Only in Vegas !!!

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**Author:** ![Lucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lucas/32/819_2.png) [@Lucas](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Lucas)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/39 "2011-05-12T19:05:57Z")

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so what you’re saying is that for training we should don the cape and cowl and head to down town las vegas?

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/dark-knight-rises/52512/40 "2011-05-12T21:48:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Lucas;1096295]so what you’re saying is that for training we should don the cape and cowl and head to down town las vegas?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn’t presume to offer advice on anyone’s training. But if you do this, make sure Robin is filming.

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