# Chiu Kau's  Hung Gar

**URL:** <https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669>\
**Category:** Southern Chinese Kung Fu\
**Created:** [May 29, 2003, 11:15pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669 "2003-05-29T23:15:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jan\_Seung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c89c15/32.png) [@Jan\_Seung](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Jan_Seung)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/21 "2003-07-04T07:54:37Z")

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GrMs,

The records are now owned by the Lau family.

This records were also partly used to make another lineage, but not all names were included. Wong Sai Wing is as far as I know not mentioned in a later lineage chart.

2nd question.  
hi hi. Nothing can be excluded.  
But I have heard that several students of Lam Sai Wing later went to Wong Fei Hung, altough mainly to learn chinese medicine.

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**Author:** ![GrMs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/71e660/32.png) [@GrMs](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GrMs)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/22 "2003-07-04T10:50:40Z")

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Hello Jan Seung.

Lau Family? Of grandmaster Lau that studied under Lam Sai Wing, and sons are in the moviebiz?  
Or Lam Family?

Later lineage chart or you mean earlier lineage cart?

Thanks for your input.

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**Author:** ![SiJiHao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@SiJiHao](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SiJiHao)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 12:58am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/23 "2003-07-30T00:58:30Z")

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That 's Lau Ga Kyun and Lau Ga Guan must come from, right?  
Who is Wong sai Wing, you mean Lum sai Wing, is it?

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**Author:** ![Rob\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/50afbb/32.png) [@Rob\_Wolf](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Rob_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2003, 6:39am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/24 "2003-08-04T06:39:48Z")

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Info

For some more info on the subject please refer to the new issue of Kung fu magazine, as my article about Chiu chi ling and his family history is released in this issue. The article is titled “Hung gar’s chosen son, Grandmaster Chiu chi ling” many thanks to Gene ching for the fine editing and presentation of the photos included.This is the sept/oct issue.  
Many points are disscused, such as origins, heritage and teaching.

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**Author:** ![SiJiHao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@SiJiHao](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SiJiHao)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 1:07am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/25 "2003-08-05T01:07:44Z")

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Thank you for your informmercial.

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**Author:** ![Rob\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/50afbb/32.png) [@Rob\_Wolf](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Rob_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:28am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/26 "2003-08-13T07:28:24Z")

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You may also like to check out southpaws pics of Wong Fei hung, These historic issues are finally bieng revealed correctly.

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**Author:** ![SiJiHao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@SiJiHao](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SiJiHao)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/27 "2003-08-13T21:58:47Z")

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Such Pics to revealing historic issues correctly? Finally? what this meaning?

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**Author:** ![swordshadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@swordshadow](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/swordshadow)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 2:41pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/28 "2003-08-14T14:41:50Z")

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Sijihao,

Listen brother, my youngest son made a beautiful portait of Gee Shan Sim Si. If you really want I am willing to finally ‘reveal’ this historical issue too?

This weekend I will ask him to create an image of Huang Qiying. But - on a side track - a befriended colleague asked for a picture of Tie Qiao San, not a problem at all. Any other requests? Maybe we can once bring out a homepage of all of the great grandmasters and inventers of Hung Kune. Should be nice if we can patronize/ visualize them all. There are always practitioners willing to hang them on the wall.

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**Author:** ![SiJiHao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@SiJiHao](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SiJiHao)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/29 "2003-08-14T15:26:10Z")

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Swordshadow,  
Now I am revealing correct historical issue for you.  
This thread not talking about some pictures. Before tell me listen you should looking.

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**Author:** ![blooming\_lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9a140/32.png) [@blooming\_lotus](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/blooming_lotus)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/30 "2003-08-14T16:13:03Z")

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Re: Chiu Kau’s Hung Gar

> Originally posted by Rob Wolf   
> Hello,  
> Anyone intersted in Chiu Kau’s Hung gar should check out this link to a 1956 Hong kong news story that was recently translated by grandmaster Chiu chi ling and myself.You may also wish to check out the affiliated links listed there.  
> Regards,  
> Rob  
> [http://www.geocities.com/sifulopez93/night\_vision.html](http://www.geocities.com/sifulopez93/night_vision.html)

excellent post. thanks for the info

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**Author:** ![South\_Paw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@South\_Paw](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/South_Paw)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/31 "2003-08-14T21:26:28Z")

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swordshadow,

To put it mildly, my daughter can draw your face with her own excrements. 😛

blooming lotus,

Thanks for your support mate. It’s much appreciated by Rob Wolf and me. 🙂

SiJiHao,

Keep on coming with your critical replies. Just love it. 😉

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**Author:** ![Rob\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/50afbb/32.png) [@Rob\_Wolf](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Rob_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 5:32am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/32 "2003-08-20T05:32:13Z")

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Hey,  
Swordshadow and blooming lotus, Welcome aboard!!!  
Regards,  
Robert Lopez III  
[www.sillumwingchun.com](http://www.sillumwingchun.com)

```
             Wong fei hung
                   taught              
              Lam sai wing 
                   taught
                 Chiu kau
                   taught
               Chiu chi ling

```

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**Author:** ![SiJiHao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@SiJiHao](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SiJiHao)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 9:09am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/33 "2003-08-20T09:09:50Z")

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More time say is less reason believe it.

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**Author:** ![GrMs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/71e660/32.png) [@GrMs](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GrMs)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 12:35pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/34 "2003-08-20T12:35:12Z")

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> Who is Wong sai Wing, you mean Lum sai Wing, is it?

To SiJiHao,

If you’re asking these questions you are not well informed. You did read the www.hungkuenmuseum.info did you?  
But you already tell us you know it all, also by giving cheap answers to Robert Wolf. Such remarks imho make clear which side you’re representing.

Peace.

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**Author:** ![SiJiHao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@SiJiHao](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SiJiHao)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/35 "2003-08-23T03:32:58Z")

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This not who side representing. This the true history every body living know this, and one different Si Fu who couple guys write the different. Who side who? Where such side, such side? Any way you guys deny your own Si Fu Follow the new Sifu, who deny his own Si Gung still living here!  
Why now he not wanting you meet his own living Si Gung? Is afraid you see too many the difference?  
May be then you no interesting follow his way any more?  
This answer not cheap, this letting truth is free. Even if writing self invent the history many times, will not one bit more true.  
Read your museum before, just not add up to equal truth.

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**Author:** ![Rob\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/50afbb/32.png) [@Rob\_Wolf](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Rob_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 5:14am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/36 "2003-08-23T05:14:31Z")

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blah, blah, blah, bellyache, bellyache, blah, blah, blah…

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**Author:** ![SiJiHao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@SiJiHao](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SiJiHao)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 5:52am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/37 "2003-08-23T05:52:11Z")

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Such cheap answer to me!

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**Author:** ![once\_ronin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/71c47a/32.png) [@once\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/once_ronin)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 9:42am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/38 "2003-08-23T09:42:57Z")

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si ji, the point is very easy to make.

as a young man master chiu chi ling had a healthy father the grand master chiu kao who many respected for his skill.

with posting a picture that master chiu kao has been into china after the communist take over, when ever that picture was taken when he was in beijing.

did the grand master chiu kao ever take any of his students or children to pay thier respects in any way to his claimed master lam sai wing? if no, why not?

i know alot of people are asking for answers as to where lam sai wing is buried. there is less than 3 people who know the answer.  
i asked lum jo and he doesnt know either where lam sai wing is buried.

knowing where mok kwai lan is buried is one thing but did she tell anyone who claims to be close to her where wong fei hung is buried?

after this point was made 2 years back there was alot of people to scramble for this answer.

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**Author:** ![SiJiHao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@SiJiHao](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SiJiHao)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 10:01am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/39 "2003-08-27T10:01:42Z")

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Of course no answer, those scramble!

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**Author:** ![Rob\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/50afbb/32.png) [@Rob\_Wolf](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Rob_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/chiu-kaus-hung-gar/20669/40 "2003-08-27T23:51:01Z")

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siji,  
Perhaps you should do a little research, or find a qualified instructor before you bite people and poison peoples ears.  
Rob

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