Nah! I work nights this week and the place I work has a gym.
Sorry Old Jong 
I wasnât meaning to ignore you, itâs just that your advice is already noted: Donât go to a chiro, go to a specialist MD.
I agree that you need to be careful. So far, so good. Nobody has dropped dead in his office⊠yet
I was able to do some smith machine squats. Better than nothing
Not necessarilyâŠ
Merryprankster: A D.O. can be a Family Practice doc like the ones at local Primary Care Clinics. They are real PHYSICIANS,like M.D.s, that can specialize in General Medicine or Surgery.
The difference between them and a Pseudo-Profession like Chiropractic is that they know HOW to read an X-Ray and what to look for. Just because you claim to be able to identify radiologic abnormalities doesnât mean you can. I mean how would the average Joe know any better? Most non-Orthopedic or Radiology Physicians have a tough time when it comes to identifying legitimate skeletal trauma on film, and they see innumerable X-Rays from day 1 of Clinicals!
Anyways, Seven Star, what exactly can you diagnose from a traditional X-Ray? What exactly are they looking for and why? How does it specifically relate to the spine in proven medical terms and principles? How is it possible for incorrect alignment of the spine to effect numerous body systems? What biochemical, physiologic and anatomic variables account for the claims Chiropractic makes? They couldnât tell you because most of them donât have a clue as to the workings of medical physiology, modern biochemistry, neuroanatomy, pharmacology, simple/factual diagnostic principles and technique, or countless other skills acquired with years and years of medical school, internship, residency, and fellowship. After college that can be up to 10-12 years! It takes that sort of time to be called a D.O. or M.D.. 3 years of grad school after 60 hrs. of college just ainât gonna cut it. Even for the hardest working academic elite becoming a proficient clinician and diagnostician takes a decade (after college).
So waste your money to have some fool release endorphins due to the micro-trauma (and sometimes macro) heâs causing. The temporary palliative effect from this is enough to milk your insurance company of their money. In the end it is your money though. But you do pay for their rarely utilized services. Now you see the rub! The best in Snake Oil!
Stretching your entire body properly and having someone crack your back every once-in-a-while is probably more effective, safer in the long run, and a whole helluvaâ lot cheaper. Just my 2 CentavosâŠ
point taken. I personally donât believe that spinal adjustment will cure cancer, alleviate abdominal cramping, etc. Thatâs just hokey. But my back and neck? Yeah, it seems to work.
However, on the other hand, an awful lot of people on this board believe in the mystical healing power of chi and dit da jow.
I guess my point is that some people swear by them, some people donât. Thatâs just the way it is.
Hey cool! My neck no longer makes funny cracking sounds when I turn it, and I can actually look all the way over my right shoulder. Neat!
omegapoint, I donât know what axe you have to grind, but there are just as many worthless MDâs as there are worthless chiropractors, and lots, I mean thousands more people are killed by MDâs and âtraditionalâ western medicine that chiropractors ever come close to. This has recently been publically accepted as an industry-wide problem for western medicine. To assume that MD means risk free is mortally foolish.
The other side of that coin is that there are good on each side too.
I have done both and have had good results from chiropractors for back problems⊠where MDâs just gave me pills and said go to bed or just sharpened their knife.
Prankster, as far as the treatment goes, yes, it seems standard to begin with 3/week for a period of weeks. Then it tapers off as improvement occurs. It may require maintenance visits forever. But the alternative is what you should think about⊠which is probably some level of surgery if you have a severe problem.
As to your doctor, why go to the one you donât care for?
Can eat with either hand. (But becomes moody when not fed regularly.)
You took the words right outta my mouth SLC.
-ShortySeven©
Step right up and get it â whoever wants [defeat]
Come not between the dragon and his wrathâŠ
Oh, they are partners. Iâll be requesting the one I favor from now on. The one I donât have a rapport with is skilled, just kind of not the best schmoozer in the world⊠kind of more interested in your pathology than you. I donât feel quite as comfortable.
Oh yes, I definitely plan on continuing care. This stuff is magic.
Omegapoint, you are an ignorant ill-informed hermit!!!
I agree with SLC. I am medical doctor and even then, I will disagree with you and agree with SLC.
Recent studies in the British Medical Journal and Journal of Orthopaedic Medicine show that Chiropractic is as quoted ââŠthe Only proven and effective therapy for the treatment of chronic whiplashâ (so much for your so called research on cervical/neck manipulations causing strokes.
Referring to this pseudo research paper you have, it is indicated that so called Chiropractic manipulations were performed by MD and physios who when it stuffs up call it Chiropractic manipulation.
It is like an MD extracting a wisdom tooth and discover that they accidentally caused neuralgia and claim that Dental techniques are dangerous and unsafe.
Omegapoint, your claims are unfounded and show your biased ignorance and lack of research.
As a matter of fact, in 1999 the Blood Journal (the most reputable medical research journal world-wide) and of course the famous British Medical Journal of 1991,indicated that Chiropractic is 400 times safer than aspirin and the later journal quoted that Chiropractic treatment of spinal injuries were two times more effective than medical management of spinal injuries.
So omegapoint, are you some uninformed hermit who knows absolutely nothing about medical sciences are you a medical or DO student who has been brainwashed by your lecturers that your profession is the only proven modality? Do your research before you open your mouth or do what an ostrich doesâŠstick your head in the sand.
Chiro
Let me preface this by saying that what follows is only MY opinion, and experience. This is one of those areas that "Whatever works for you, works!
I too had scoliosis (curveture of the spine) and disk/muscle injury of the back and neck, due to an auto accident. Was in chiropractic for a year and a half. Started at 5x/week, and bty the end, wsa down to 1-2x/week. Did it help? Heck yes!
Initially, it was pretty much the only was I could make it through the workday ( I would go at lunch ). But. It was, for me, only a quick fix that allowed me to keep going. It didnât really aid in any healing. It was only after I started some fairly intensive Physical Therapy w/ a strong program of excercise, that I saw a marked improvment in long term function and lowered pain levels. It is important to note that this not something I could have started right away, but after the initial healing had happened I am pretty sure that the Chiro was only a pallative (ie, go in feeling crappy, exit feeling wonderful, get up the next morning, feeeling crappy again.)
Only the correct excersises were of long term benefit. And only when kept up with. If I stop the workouts for more than 2 months, the lower back, neck and knee pains return nearly full force. It is only the constant workouts that protect the damaged parts.
So, do the chiro, but find a good PT guy/girl to help strengthen the damaged areas. If you are in DC, the Russian guy I used is in Baltimore.
MArk
My 2 cents
Mar
And So It GoesâŠ
Treatment length
As for the original question - I received Chiro treatment for nearly four months. It was good, In that it loosened my vertebrae and made them âadjustable.â However, they usually try to get you to come in too often and for too long. This is bad because it erodes the disks and makes your vertebrae too loose. He would adjust me, Iâd walk out the door, and my back would pop right back into the wrong position! Since I quit, my back is better, and I have retained enough looseness of the spine to adjust myself, using Yoga and other streching. For instance, torso twists with the pole a la Bruce Lee cracks my upper back. Lower back can be adjusted with lotus pose. Any kind of backbend, forward bend, twist, etc. The only thing I miss the Chiropractor for is neck adjustments, this is a little more difficult to do on your own. Shoulderstand works sometimes. So the original loosening was very beneficial, but once you hit a certain point of looseness itâs time to put your body in your own hands. One more warning: I am about 6 foot 1 and 175 pounds. My chiropractor was about 5â6 but he was able to make the adjustments. One day he was on vacation, and his partner came to do the adjustments. She was about 5â1 and 120 pounds, maybe. Needless to say, she could not perform the adjustments, and messed up my neck for a week. Donât be fooled like I was! They knew she couldnât do it, and just wanted to get me in the office so they could make their dough. -FJ
I had treatment done by a chriporactor, and tried to go back as advised. The pain was soon gone.
Also, a close relative of mine, who finds sleeping many a tear in the eye, visits the chiropractor very often She now sleeps soundly, in fact, snoring muchly
ShaoLin Temple, sound advice Take it easy !
Hi Prana, havenât seen you around for a long time.
Hi Prana, havenât seen you around for a long time.
I wonder if omegapoint is or is another gokitus prime trying to set up a
troll like he did in all the other sites as mercilessfighter, fivestar
praying mantis and etc.
Hi, hope you donât mind me copying this Dharma spinning wheel, it looks
greatâŠ
Which Shaolin is authentic. North or South.
As Sifu would sayâŠthere is no permanence and there should not be any discrimination.
The point is therefore, who cares.
The more Shaolin there are, the better. Be civilized and chivalrous in your behaviour. As martial artists, we are supposed to not forget that we learn this art to help others and ourselves in times of needâŠnot be a thug!!!
Amitabha.
no problemmo with the wheel. In this current state of the world, the great Lamaâs advices that we turn the wheel of Chenrezig and give as many prayers of the 6 syllable mantra, and so I thought, why not distribute it on the forum and let the wheel turn on all the screens of our friends.
I hope that it will generate much loving kindness to heal the current state of the world.
you need to go to an ot or a tiet da yee-chinese bone-setter. My fianceâ learned her art from her mom, who learned it from her dad, etc, and she puts people back and they stay put. None of this maintenance crapola. Look at it this way-the spine is held together by tendon and ligaments which are lacking in elasticity. How many times would it take to manipulate a spine over and over untill it cannot hold, and the body needs more and more frequent adjustments? Tiet-da medicine not only adjusts the bones, but manipulates the muscle, and through massage and herbal formulas, strengthen and rebuild tissue. To some western Drs, it might sound like quackery, but fekâem.
Bumping up to top
For CD Lee.
In response to MerryPrankster
I donât know if anyone still reads this but Iâll say it anyway.
My oldest sister was involved in a wreck, no big deal except that soon thereafter she started having stomach pain. No MD could diagnose it, she spent alot of money with them and got nothing. 6 months after the accident she hurt her back and went to the chiro, who says, âhmmm, been having stomach problems?â 3 treatments and no more stomach pain.
My conclusion? (As if anybody cares :)) The body is one organism! One thing gone wrong will affect another.
And yes, there are quacks out there on both sides of the fence. 
âBox a fighter and fight a boxerâ. Bruce Lee
I am always a bit dubious when the medical profession speaks out against an alternative therapy. While they may well have our safety at heart, it also smakcs of protecting their own turf too.
I do not think omegapoint is a troll, and he is just speaking his own mind. However I had heard a different history for chiropractics than the one that he outlined.
Donât forget - it wasnât that long ago that osteopaths were considered quacks as well.
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Youâre fu(king up my chi
Bad day for chiropractics
This has made quite a stir in the news.
[URL=âhttp://www.tmz.com/2016/10/19/model-katie-may-chiropractor-cause-of-death/â]MODEL KATIE MAYâS DEATH
Coroner Finds âŠ
CHIROPRACTOR DID IT
10/19/2016 12:50 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
EXCLUSIVE
Playboy model Katie May died from a simple visit to a chiropractor for an adjustment, which ultimately left her with a fatal tear to an artery in her neck ⊠according to the L.A. County Coroner.
TMZ obtained a copy of Katieâs death certificate, and it clears up a huge mystery surrounding her sudden death in February. The document says she died when a blunt force injury tore her left vertebral artery, and cut off blood flow to her brain.
It also says the injury was sustained during a âneck manipulation by chiropractor.â Her death is listed as accidental.
As TMZ first reported, Katie â known as the âQueen of Snapchatâ â had taken a nasty fall during a photo shoot. She thought she had a pinched nerve and went to an L.A. chiropractor on Friday. She suffered a stroke on Monday, and remained on life support until Thursday.
Katieâs family is aware of the coronerâs findings. They would not comment on whether they or her estate would pursue legal action.
I see a chiropractor regularly. But like with any healer, I find itâs more about the specific practitioner than the practice itself.
[QUOTE=GeneChing;1297207]I see a chiropractor regularly. But like with any healer, I find itâs more about the specific practitioner than the practice itself.[/QUOTE]
Much the same can be said for any martial art âstyleâ.
Whether it is able to be used is often more related to the individual than to the specific âstyleâ.
Everything has both good and bad examples.
A lot of whether something appeals to one or not has a lot to do with what is being sought.
In some cases the simple belief that something will help makes it helpful. Placebo effect anyone???
To anyone suffering from chronic spinal pain
Seek reverse hyper machine now
[QUOTE=Sihing73;1297334]Much the same can be said for any martial art âstyleâ.
Whether it is able to be used is often more related to the individual than to the specific âstyleâ.
Everything has both good and bad examples.
A lot of whether something appeals to one or not has a lot to do with what is being sought.
In some cases the simple belief that something will help makes it helpful. Placebo effect anyone???[/QUOTE]
style is the vehicle, once you are using it, it loses meaning.
Everything you need, you already have and the catch 22 is that you wonât know what you need until someone shows you. lol