# calling all parks pa-kua chang schools **URL:** \ **Category:** Taijiquan and the Internal Martial Arts\ **Created:** [May 22, 2002, 5:30am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183 "2002-05-22T05:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![YiLiJingLei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e47c2d/32.png) [@YiLiJingLei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/YiLiJingLei)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2002, 3:30am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183/81 "2002-06-26T03:30:33Z")
Park’s Seminar I realize that a seminar is just a small glimpse into what & how a teacher presents thier art. I had the opportunity to attend one of Park Bok Nam’s seminar’s earlier this year here in Seattle. Since I’ve studied a couple branches of Bagua (Cheng Ting Hua’s & Zhang Zhao Dong’s), I was eager to get a taste of what Park’s BaGua was like, especially with all the good references I’d heard. From attending seminars from other teachers, I was used to instructors trying to put out as much useful information/practice methods as possible, to give a taste of what the art’s about. The seminar was broken up into two parts: a 2 & 1/2 hour lecture in the morning, a lunch break, then the technical aspects of the seminar. The lecture started out interestingly enough, Park’s a friendly, personable fellow. But I kept wondering, during the lecture, “when is he going to begin the instructional portion of the lecture?” as he rambled through a funny bio of his life over the 2 1/2 hours. I was surprised how little meaningful dissertation was presented. Oh, well, I thought, as we broke for lunch, the technical half of the seminar ought to be impressive, and make up for the morning. There were about 30 students attending the seminar, some with little martial arts experience, some were some of Park’s students for several years, some came as far away as California and Idaho. Well, as the physical training/technical part of the seminar drew to an end, I was again surprised at how very little information was presented in a days time. Probably the shallowest seminar I’ve ever attended. Park appeared to have some skill, and was a nice enough fellow, but none of his students taking his expensive “correspondence program” were much to write home about. Actually I was amazed to find that folks that I thought’d perhaps only been practicing from Park for a couple months or so had actually been students of his for several years. I couldn’t help but wonder how he managed to keep so many of them so captivated with such a shallow, expensive correspondance program, but then I remembered one of his local students explaining that Park doesn’t allow his students to visit other schools or seminars. I understand keeping focus on one art, but not to put blinders on to the rest of the world. Well, perhaps my standards are too high, and perhaps I expected too much. Perhaps Park was only catering to beginners in the seminar. But I couldn’t help coming away from the seminar with the ironic yet enlightening moral in my mind “a fool and his money shall soon part”. So, I just try to laugh off the disappointment. 😃 Needless to say, I don’t plan to attend any of Park’s future seminars, nor would I recommend his expensive correspondence program to a friend. ---
**Author:** ![Justa\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5fc32e/32.png) [@Justa\_Man](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Justa_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2002, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183/82 "2002-06-26T20:51:36Z")
AAARRRGGGHHHH ! ! ! :mad: :mad: OFFFFFF…WITH HIS HEAD! ! :mad: :mad: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ma\_Xu\_Zha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ed655f/32.png) [@Ma\_Xu\_Zha](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Ma_Xu_Zha)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2002, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183/83 "2002-06-26T22:51:39Z")
dear denise I agree seminars do suck and are useless. they are expensive and never meet expectations, this is not parks fault or the fault of many other seminars i have been to where a teacher only teaches a few things to be “slow and exact” because they believe that quality is more than quantity. thats why i dont go to seminars anymore. the real lessons are building a relationship with a teacher by going to the school for a year and more until you build trust and a strong foundation. seminars are not worth the money nor disappoint ment. chen xiao wong taught a 2 day seminar covering 4 silk reeling movements and i expected more. at least i got the exercise down real good. i feel spoiled and jaded cause i know that the corresonding schools of park dont get to have him watch them practice so they are getting away with incorrectness without the watchful eye of a master. m ---
**Author:** ![Jaws8u](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@Jaws8u](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Jaws8u)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183/84 "2002-06-28T22:56:45Z")
Kalis Just wondering where you got your information from. Is there a site where the rest of us can see a list of these tournaments, those who fought in them, etc. I haven’t heard of any of this information being in his books, but maybe they are. If so please site pages, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Raiden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8dc957/32.png) [@Raiden](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Raiden)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2002, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183/85 "2002-06-29T01:06:22Z")
Well, after bugging Glenn Wright to death, he has accepted me as a student. In the couple of hours I spent with him today, he came across as being very knowledgable about all aspects of bagua, both theoretical and combat. He mentioned that in the future we will do sparring, both controled and all-out with pads. Course, I’m probably a long way from that. Jaws, in the future I’ll ask him about his tournament experiences with Park, but I don’t wanna start grilling him too soon on stuff like that. Cheers 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kalis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee7513/32.png) [@kalis](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kalis)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2002, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183/86 "2002-06-29T01:34:14Z")
Jaw8u, Theres a little info on the tournaments that Parks students competed in on page, 23 and 24 in his book “The Fundamentals of Pakua Chang” Park also keeps a photo album at his school, with pictures of his students fighting and standing on the winners podium. Park has Real skill Bro, believe that! And he has trained a few with skill. Ive been around the martial arts for awhile and have been around some good martail artist, Park is truley one of the best ive been around. Park also have students that have trained with some well known internal Sifu, and they say that Parks ranks as one of the best that they have touched hands with. Ive felt his power and it was nothing like i have felt before. He put his hand against my chest and with a slight shake of the body dropped me at his feet. One other time While showing me an application, he hit me in such a way that the energy moved me across the room about ten yards. It felt as though i was being pushed across the room. This man has a LOT of skill! And we`re only talking empty hands, his skill with weapons is some of the best ive seen. So people can say what they want about Park, but until they have touched hands with him they simply have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Justa\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5fc32e/32.png) [@Justa\_Man](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Justa_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2002, 1:39am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183/87 "2002-06-30T01:39:55Z")
HEY RAIDEN Congrats man! I just remember you saying for a while how you’ve been trying to get in touch with Glen Wright. I hope he’s all that. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kyle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/848f3c/32.png) [@kyle](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kyle)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2002, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183/88 "2002-06-30T23:17:22Z")
Raiden Persevere and you will succed Good for you man,Glen Wright is a great guy with a lot of Pa Kua Skill and like sifu Park doesn’t like to show off or demonstrate his abilities.He studied with him in Korea when Master Park was younger,he saw stuff we here only read in history books. Train hard,be patient and pay attention. Be suspicious of those who slander teachers without never meeting them,believe it,people have no idea of Master Park skills or some of his advanced students, until they get a taste. There is an incredible amount of material in this system,follow your instructor advise and the skills will come. Ask him for a taste of internal power,that will keep you motivated for a long time to come. good luck. Kalis You have it right,I experienced the same taste of power with Master Park,I felt like a burning stab in my chest,my knees gave in and went straight to the floor,he didn’t move much at all. Master Park demonstrate me a taste of his speed combination once and if I didn’t felt it and see it with my own eyes it will be hard to believe,he is so fast. Just because he doesn’t like to show his stuff some people get the wrong ideas,fools. He told me that beginers don’t understand and appreciate how good and complete Lu Shui Tien Pa Kua training is,but experienced practioners will see the value and power of this system Ma Glad to hear that you appreciate what you learned at his school, I trained with Glenn when he was coming to Baltimore on saturdays,the man is a jewel,I will forever thank him for his help,he has so much to share. Good luck with your training, ---
**Author:** ![blacktaoist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@blacktaoist](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/blacktaoist)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 12:07am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183/89 "2002-07-01T00:07:19Z")
kyle > Be suspicious of those who slander teachers without never meeting them,believe it,people have no idea of Master Park skills or some of his advanced students, until they get a taste. You seem to be a student of Park Bok Nam. Are you a Advanced student? If so being that you live in New York, maybe we can meet up. If not, then try to make it to Moshan All Ba Gua event, maybe you can Bring these advaned Park students you are talking about. Because so far the ones that I have crosshands with from Park, had no Martal skills what so ever. [Previous page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/calling-all-parks-pa-kua-chang-schools/12183.md?page=4)