I’m going to be reincarnated as a dung beetle anyway.
My comments on the wing chun forum will take care of that.
Everybody seems to hate me on that forum. Oh well, i think most of them are knowledgeless, stuck up, stupid fu.cks anyway.
I’m going to be reincarnated as a dung beetle anyway.
Better than a turtle.
so china has given taiwan ‘the finger’?!?
sounds consistent…
Are we going to start cussing turtles again now?
Cos you know i won’t stand for it.
“Don’t look at the finger!”
Interesting post scotty1, who would have guessed that the ensuing thread would have gone this direction? The forum never ceases to amaze me. :rolleyes: I would love to mknow more about the “kungfu monks.” I’m told the Dalai Lama has an elite guard of fighting monks too, sort of a symbolic tradition that has been passed down for generations. Man, that comes straight out of a comic book, doesn’t it? Still, it gives one pause to think that such things do exist in our world today. Buddhist relics are pretty common. Most of them are not guarded very well. Buddhists aren’t really protective in that way - it’s part of the impermence philosophy. I remember when a sand mandala was destroyed at the Asian art museum in SF by some fanatical Christian woman. she jumped into the middle of it screaming about the devil. The museam people were aghast, but the monks thought it was fine. It’s all impermanent anyway. The authenticity of relics is always an issue, especially in China, but that’s not the point. It’s the reverence. Look at the moon, not the finger - Bruce Lee lifted that concept from Buddha.
In defense of those of us who are maturity impaired, I would like to point out that buddha wouldn’t want us taking his finger too seriously.
And anyways, what is the difference? The turtle, the dung beetle, Brian Dennehy, the six parts of John Holmes. It is all part of the same whole.
Now back to the serious discussion of the finger/abdomen lump of buddha.
I know a dude named Buddha
Buddha was a dude
Rompin through old China
Eating all their food.
Pretty good eh?
JWT
in fact, im pretty sure the buddha didnt want anything 
still, anything conducive to less suffering for the people involved is good in my book
peace
trav
Our posts were very relevant. Those of you who do not see that clearly cannot see the whole. You are too ignorant. Empty your cups. Be like a willow tree.
Maybe one day you will see “the way”.
If you but contemplate JWT’s rhyme for a year, you will have come closer to enlightenment.
This is the lesson of buddhas finger, or abdomen lump, whichever it is.
Rhymes suck.
RM
why is it you ask us about whether we know our english or not, when your sentences are strewn with mis-spellings all over the shop???
Because as i said i’m eating soup"plus this keyboard is missing most the lettering on the keys, so im typing like i just learned to"
plus im in a good mood so im joshin ya.
Gene, you know about monks, what is this lump from bhuddist diets?
“”““2nd, it is not a “finger”. I am certain the translater here has made a mistake. It is more like a small hard, marble-like object. If was supposed to be found in the stomach of the buddha. These are not rare to find really. People who have lived on a buddhist diet all their lives will normally have them. Don’t know the medical reason. But alot of monks has them. When the bodies are cremated, these the normally the things which survives the fire. Hence, it is said to contain all the intellegence of the owner. And would only develop if the monk is exceptionally gifted ( questionable claim, but thats buddist mysticism. ). Since this one was from Buddha himself, well, the religous significance is imaginable. Maybe matchable only by things like the holy grail or something like that.””“”"
If this “ball” isn’t a ball of anthrax I’ll eat my inner **** Van Dyke.
Maybe it’s actually Hitler’s missing testicle. [From the British 1940’s rhyme!]
And the above post says D i c k Van Dyke.
My inner Leslie Nielsen also says hi.
So if the lump is left after cremation, it must be something like a gall stone, or kidney stone.ie, crystallised calcium.
However if the relic is a part of Buddha, then we could extract his DNA, and clone the Buddha back to life!
That would really mess with reincarnation!
And suddenly, the thread took a really weird turn
Not really. It would be only the flesh of buddha. The spirit would not necessarily be the same. It could as much be the spirit of Brian Dennehy occupying the flesh of buddha.
Originally posted by Sharky
[B]I’m going to be reincarnated as a dung beetle anyway.
My comments on the wing chun forum will take care of that.
Everybody seems to hate me on that forum. Oh well, i think most of them are knowledgeless, stuck up, stupid fu.cks anyway. [/B]
BS! You’re cool mate Dont sweat it, we dont hate you, err at least I don’t
Re: “Don’t look at the finger!”
Originally posted by GeneChing
Interesting post scotty1, who would have guessed that the ensuing thread would have gone this direction? The forum never ceases to amaze me. :rolleyes: I would love to mknow more about the “kungfu monks.” I’m told the Dalai Lama has an elite guard of fighting monks too, sort of a symbolic tradition that has been passed down for generations. Man, that comes straight out of a comic book, doesn’t it? Still, it gives one pause to think that such things do exist in our world today. Buddhist relics are pretty common. Most of them are not guarded very well. Buddhists aren’t really protective in that way - it’s part of the impermence philosophy. I remember when a sand mandala was destroyed at the Asian art museum in SF by some fanatical Christian woman. she jumped into the middle of it screaming about the devil. The museam people were aghast, but the monks thought it was fine. It’s all impermanent anyway. The authenticity of relics is always an issue, especially in China, but that’s not the point. It’s the reverence. Look at the moon, not the finger - Bruce Lee lifted that concept from Buddha.
Yo Gene, good to see you here 
The Dalai Lama is protected by the wrathful aspect of the thousand-armed Chenrezig. The last and final aspect of this wrathful nature was given by Amitabha, when his head split. THe story is that, the the Boddisattva Chenrezig (Avalokitashevra) saw that all his efforts put together, and the worlds suffering is getting worst and worst, and he cried and his head split into many pieces. Amitabha saw what has happened and told him not to become upset and to persist, and put his head back into 10 and the last one being the wrathful for the very difficult to discipline.
Edit : I forget, different parts of northern India have different “Boddhisattvas” to protect them, but as you say, they tend to have a wrathful nature, but that is ONLY to pacify mara…
The mandala is a very symbolic giving off oneself to the Buddhas. Before one receives initiation to anuyoga, a monk will have to symbolise inner giving of all aspects of his life, and when the mandala is finally complete, the whole thing is blseed and thrown into the sea, a form of Puja. This is of course symbolic of destroying all attachment to worldly self. I hope that answers your questions.
For the monks, I can almost guarantee that the woman is “seen” as karmic fruition of impurities that was present in the monks, and the woman is here to destroy all aspects of ones past bad deeds. In this way, the monks will actually be thankful and see her as a wonderful teacher, the kindest one, do you know what I mean ?
Hope I havent gone too far out of line.
Oh yeah, relics are common amongst the many Buddhists, the last great Relic was left my the 16 Karmapa during his passing, his heart was unable to be burnt and is treasured.
Originally posted by Colin
However if the relic is a part of Buddha, then we could extract his DNA, and clone the Buddha back to life!
That would really mess with reincarnation!
no not really. Even if someone is able to “clone” a Buddha, it is not the empty body that is of importance, for it is just the body. The soul would have left the Brahman aperture. The only way it would “come” back alive is another consciousness has entered through one of its gates… then it would be a completely different being altogether.
Better put my flame suit on, I can feel a lot of people are going to step all over my words [Flame Suit activated]