Anyone on here know of any Hung Gar schools that teach a version of Bil Jee/Biu Gee? I have heard stories that that form was exchanged for the Hung Gar Long Pole Set in some lineage between a Hung and a Wing Chung Sifu. ANY info would help me out Thx!
I know of a Hung Gar school that teaches Wing Chun on the side, but they have incorporated some some Taiji influence. How good the WC is I really canāt say other than to tell you they said that Dummy training makes a person āstiffā, which is why they donāt teach it or have one onsite. I donāt know anything about their pole form. They said their WC was not from a Yip Man line, but I forgot who they attributed it to.
It seems like I heard that Garrett Geeās lineage is heavily involved in Hung Gar as well as the Wing Chun, but thatās also not a Hong Kong line. I could be mistaken about the Hung Gar, though.
There is a form in the Hung Kuen system that I was exposed to many years ago as part of the Lion Dance training that I was involved in under a teacher from China by the name of Sifu Deng Chi Tang which is called āMan Ji Kuenā (āthe character for 10,000 fistā, better known as the āBuddhist swastikaā form), which while not an exact replica of the āBiu Jiā form, contains many elements that may well have been adopted by Wing Chun or modified to become part of the Wing Chun repertoire. Sifu Deng, who was a friend of Sifu Wong Shun Leung and who had dabbled in Wing Chun himself, always enjoyed pointing out the similarities of the techniques or concepts employed in the two forms. Just my two cents worth guys
DMP
Chinese (and other) Martial Artists are traditionally very humble. For example, if a sifu learned a set from another system, or even created one him/herself, it would be far to arrogant and disrespectful to claim credit for introducing it, and so they will demure and, in reverance to the profound body of Chinese culture, pay tribute and honor by assigning the credit to an ancestor, historic or legendary, and thus give their students the even greater richness of the fable surrounding it as well.
āIt seems like I heard that Garrett Geeās lineage is heavily involved in Hung Gar as well as the Wing Chun, but thatās also not a Hong Kong line. I could be mistaken about the Hung Gar, though.ā - JAFO
Yes, my friend, you are mistaken.
GM Gee is the inheritor of the Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun Kuen. Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun is a complete Wing Chun system and not a hybrid of Wing Chun and Hung Ga. Nor is Hung Ga taught at the Hung Fa Kwoon or at any of the branch schools.
However, if memeory serves there is one bay area Wing Chun sifu who teaches (or used to) at a location that also offers Hung Ga.
It was not my intention to imply Sifu Geeās Wing Chun was in any way adulterated with another style; I was passing along that I thought I had heard his family was also involved with Hung Gar in addition to the Wing Chun. His website does mention instruction in āShaolin Kung Fuā, although Iām not entirely sure which version that is. At any rate I am apparently mistaken about a Hung Gar connection and for that I apologize. No doubt you and I are both trying to refer to the same WC sifu in northen Calif. I only wish one of us could remember that personās name.
Wow..if you have any more info..that is cool..but my god! This is way more than I expected to hear..I actually got a few leads out of this! Who says the wing chun forum doesnt kick ass??
Anyone know any good resources on Hung Fai Yi WCK literature? I have heard and read a bit about that lineage, and am curious to learn more. Just curious on how it looks, where it came from, who practices, and what makes it different from the rest.
Go to your local Barnes and Noble (if you have one) an see if they have the book; āMastering Kung Fu: The Shaolin Wing Chunā there.
I just picked up the book yesterday (I do TWC, not HFY WC) and Iāve only got a chance to skim through it so far, but I plan on reading it entirely once I get the chance.
The book is much more indepth than any other WC book Iāve seen, but I just wish they wouldāve showed the ENTIRE Siu lim tao form, and more fighting applications using the HFY approach. Also, I donāt think the picture sequences that ARE shown for a form or technique are taken at the best time either, so the true motion of the forms is very distorted for an outsider, IMO.
Anyway, it does have a lot of information (or would seem so, Iāve only skimmed through it) about HFY wing chun, so Iām not complaining.
Now, if only they would put some video clips of HFY wing chun on the internet so we can see what it looks like in action :).