[QUOTE=Water Dragon;702510]That’s it.
I’m going, going, back, back, to Cali, Cali,Cali.[/QUOTE]
i think you’re off there dude…I don’t have them in front of me but I think it’s:
I’m going
going
going back to cali,cali
going
going
going back to cali
cali
LL Cool J is da **** because LL P L
Hmmmm, well if we’re comparing. I have my bachelors degree, plan on starting my Phd in economics as soon as my sons are old enough. Yes, I’m a single father. I’m one of the top producers at my job (white collar profesional), train Judo, lift weights, still do bag work, have a healthy relationship with my girl, and still try to volunteer a couple hours at least once a month (I have a passion for working with at risk youth; crises intervention programs, etc.)
Most of my friends who smoke do equally well. All have college degrees.
Maybe you’re just hanging around people with little to no motivation. Correlation does not necesarily indicate causation.
I personally think the effects of alcohol are much worse tha marijauna.
[QUOTE=Oso;702524]i think you’re off there dude…I don’t have them in front of me but I think it’s:
I’m going
going
going back to cali,cali
going
going
going back to cali
cali
LL Cool J is da **** because LL P L
[/QUOTE]
Love LL, but I was quoting Biggie Smalls.
so then it IS TRUE what THEY SAY
California IS Another country.
oh and i am not even going to get in to the drug debate here. although i am allergic to it, i dont dis anyone who smokes it(was joking in my last post sort of) as statistics go ,pot is a big fat goose egg when it comes to related deaths and mishappenings with a car and such. alchohol contributes to more mayhem and death on the road and in the home than any other illegal/legal recreational substance, it even eclipses crack and meth.
Hey if it is legal for you HSK then kudos to you. although it must suck having a spinal injury.
Peace and be well, TWS
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;702457]did someone say “doobie”???
heh-heh…[/QUOTE]
yo man
i dont know if i would go posting this image…
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just read the rest frank.
thats funny, you’re like “**** i can grow no worries”
Well, whatever. I doubt you’re smoking a lot. If you were you couldn’t get a good corporate job because they test, and it would affect your motor skills, not to mention your sex drive.
I’ve met plenty of successful people who smoke once or twice a week. I used to body-surf with a bunch of doctors and lawyers some mornings in Santa Cruz and they’d all light up.
I guess we’re all entitled to our opinions. Maybe the people that I met who got on pot and got all weird would have gotten all weird anyway – I don’t know.
Maybe the meth heads that I know that got started with pot would have turned out as meth heads anyway – I don’t know.
But for me, I’m against recreational pot use. As for medical marijuana – I don’t have enough data to make a decision on that one yet.
lunghushan,
but you are totally discounting the effect it has on people like me who is in constant pain. I can take vicodin, codenes, but I am likely to get more addicted to those than i would marijuana.
Plus, never once is there a record of someone overdosing, or dying from the use of marijuana.
but for someone who has cancer, and usually doesn’t have an appetite due to kimo, marijuana would help the nausea, would make them hungry so they can eat.
marijuana is great for those with depression, women with cramps, and so forth.
you are only judging marijuana based off of what you’ve seen in a very limited scope of things.
however smoking cigarettes causes cancer, but weed doesn’t. There are no Warning Signs on bags of weed when we buy it.
but the on the door to the weed club i go to has printed on the door.“Welcome to Heaven”…
For those who need weed for it’s effects, this place is heaven.
hsk
I go through between a half and an ounce a week.
[QUOTE=Water Dragon;702534]I go through between a half and an ounce a week.[/QUOTE]
Well that’s nothing to boast about. Stay away from Mexican brown, that stuff causes parkinsons disease.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;702533]lunghushan,
but you are totally discounting the effect it has on people like me who is in constant pain. I can take vicodin, codenes, but I am likely to get more addicted to those than i would marijuana.
Plus, never once is there a record of someone overdosing, or dying from the use of marijuana.
but for someone who has cancer, and usually doesn’t have an appetite due to kimo, marijuana would help the nausea, would make them hungry so they can eat.
marijuana is great for those with depression, women with cramps, and so forth.
you are only judging marijuana based off of what you’ve seen in a very limited scope of things.
however smoking cigarettes causes cancer, but weed doesn’t. There are no Warning Signs on bags of weed when we buy it.
but the on the door to the weed club i go to has printed on the door.“Welcome to Heaven”…
For those who need weed for it’s effects, this place is heaven.
hsk[/QUOTE]
Like I said, I don’t know about medical marijuana. I don’t have enough data points yet. I’m against recreational use.
so we’re good then?!?!?!
[QUOTE=lunghushan;702536]Well that’s nothing to boast about. Stay away from Mexican brown, that stuff causes parkinsons disease.[/QUOTE]
Not boasting, just stating that I think your logic is skewed. People who are motivated and want to make the world a better place will do that regardless. People who want to waste their life away will do that regardless. I don’t feel that marijuana use plays a factor one way or the other.
I could show you a lot of worthless people who eat peanut butter sammiches. That doesn’t make peanut butter sammiches inherently bad.
WHat’s up shaolinlueb?
Yeah, i wave at the cops now when they drive by and look at my plants.
Cali is the place to be…
hsk
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;702539]so we’re good then?!?!?!:)[/QUOTE]
Look, I’m not judging you. I’m just saying what I ran into. I have no idea about medicinal uses. It wasn’t legal in California for medicinal uses and nobody I knew used it for that except my friend Chris’s grandmother who said it helped her glaucoma.
I don’t see the point in recreational use. Believe me, I’m not coming into it from some naive viewpoint. My room-mates used to grow, they used it all the time, I knew plenty of people do it, sit around do nothing except bang out stupid tunes on the guitar, listen to Hendrix and the Grateful Dead and go “oh man” for hours.
One of my friends had a girlfriend that looked like Grace Kelly. She was from OC. She was so beautiful, and my friend just smoked all the time, did nothing, so she left him. Then she got onto pot and last I heard was dating some 18 year old at 30, never did anything with her life.
I could go on and on with examples of people who started with pot and went to meth. Dozens of people.
If you ask me, it just causes people to be dumb and stupid, so I don’t get the point … ???
[QUOTE=Water Dragon;702543]Not boasting, just stating that I think your logic is skewed. People who are motivated and want to make the world a better place will do that regardless. People who want to waste their life away will do that regardless. I don’t feel that marijuana use plays a factor one way or the other.
I could show you a lot of worthless people who eat peanut butter sammiches. That doesn’t make peanut butter sammiches inherently bad.[/QUOTE]
I just don’t get the point. Bottom line is it’s just kindof useless. From what I’ve come across it just causes problems, everything from child neglect to people going nowhere in their lives, to breakdowns of the family and divorce.
You say I can’t prove causation, yes, that’s true. Maybe those people were just losers to begin with, I have no idea. But I don’t see the point in smoking the stuff.
[QUOTE=lunghushan;702545]Look, I’m not judging you. I’m just saying what I ran into. I have no idea about medicinal uses. It wasn’t legal in California for medicinal uses and nobody I knew used it for that except my friend Chris’s grandmother who said it helped her glaucoma.
I don’t see the point in recreational use. Believe me, I’m not coming into it from some naive viewpoint. My room-mates used to grow, they used it all the time, I knew plenty of people do it, sit around do nothing except bang out stupid tunes on the guitar, listen to Hendrix and the Grateful Dead and go “oh man” for hours.
One of my friends had a girlfriend that looked like Grace Kelly. She was from OC. She was so beautiful, and my friend just smoked all the time, did nothing, so she left him. Then she got onto pot and last I heard was dating some 18 year old at 30, never did anything with her life.
I could go on and on with examples of people who started with pot and went to meth. Dozens of people.
If you ask me, it just causes people to be dumb and stupid, so I don’t get the point … ???[/QUOTE]
My argument is that those people would be worthless whether or not herb was involved.
[QUOTE=Water Dragon;702548]My argument is that those people would be worthless whether or not herb was involved.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but why do it? That’s the thing I don’t get.
Then again, I don’t really understand alcohol abuse either. Alcohol just seems to make you fat if you drink a lot, and if you drink hard alcohol it just seems to destroy your liver.
Anyway, like I said, there will be no convincing you. I’ve been through this many times already. We’ll see what happens to you, how it affects you.
Nothing is worse, though, than trying to deal with some high idiot in a business situation or a retail establishment. It makes them just kindof, well, dumb.
[QUOTE=lunghushan;702547]
You say I can’t prove causation, yes, that’s true. Maybe those people were just losers to begin with, I have no idea. But I don’t see the point in smoking the stuff.[/QUOTE]
But the thing is, no one is asking you to approve. No one is saying, “Lung, you need to smoke weed.”
The argument is that there is not a single study that proves marijuana is the demon many people make it out to be. In fact, the studies that have been done show weed to be benign if not beneficial.
I think somebody should post a video of an old woman being assaulted before this thread gets locked. 
[QUOTE=Water Dragon;702550]But the thing is, no one is asking you to approve. No one is saying, “Lung, you need to smoke weed.”
The argument is that there is not a single study that proves marijuana is the demon many people make it out to be. In fact, the studies that have been done show weed to be benign if not beneficial.[/QUOTE]
It’s not a big black and white thing. The effects of pot are more subtle. I don’t think you can fully comprehend the effects of pot until you have a 45 year old pot-head room-mate who still thinks he’s in college, and it isn’t just him, but it’s his girlfriend and all his friends as well.
Pot is bad news. I don’t need a study for that.