[QUOTE=David Jamieson;924659]sand is not actually a good medium for striking.
It compacts and puts all the force back into you.
So, I wouldn’t recommend it as a heavy bag filler.
Yes, rags and cloths are usually what is used inside of a heavy bag.
But whatever floats someones boat I guess. ???
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i was saying heavy bags are soft and not for conditioing, howevers i find it very good for pratce footwork and punch power, and body movement.
alsos ,i dont know why u say crippled from sand bag, i punch sand bag for 2 years, 4 month ago i start heavy bag i find heavy bag can actually more dangerous.
sandbag is very safe because you punch one or three at a time, you know after 100 200 punches you get injure. heavy bag very heavy, and at first 20 min non stop it doesnt hurt you so you dont know when you will get injure. i think combination of different bag is best
for conditioing bags you do very controlled. sanjuro, conditon bags make you have hard hand, but u need to practice sending that hand, rite
when using a canvas bag filed with 80 pounds of sand, One starts softly, with the proper distance, working all the parts of the hands including fingers, knife hand, back knuckle, palms, etc. As time goes on the bag is worked harder, the give ( what little their is needed) is the bag it’self. I have been using this method 50 years, No one has been injured." If this isn’t your bag" , use a different type, most all of my students prefer it especially after they experience the results of being blocked or having to block a “sand-bag fist”
This is simply an old method and I hope it doesn’t die out.
[QUOTE=SIFU RON;925461]PROPER TRAINING IS THE KEY —
when using a canvas bag filed with 80 pounds of sand, One starts softly, with the proper distance, working all the parts of the hands including fingers, knife hand, back knuckle, palms, etc. As time goes on the bag is worked harder, the give ( what little their is needed) is the bag it’self. I have been using this method 50 years, No one has been injured." If this isn’t your bag" , use a different type, most all of my students prefer it especially after they experience the results of being blocked or having to block a “sand-bag fist”
This is simply an old method and I hope it doesn’t die out. ;)[/QUOTE]
I do this same thing, except I dont have the sand bag. For the hand conditioning I have been using a tree, always the same tree. Its my friend and I’ve prepared it. Its a cedar, the outer later of bark has been removed, leaving the inner layer which is roughly a centemeter of semi soft material. I also work my 4 elbows on this tree, as well as several kicks. I dont know if anyone else does this, though Im sure some do. I treat my hands before and after I practice this.
I started this on dense sand bags when they were available to me. Ive been doing this 2 years and havnt had any problems as of yet. I plan to keep using my tree for this. I do own a heavy bag that I have at home where I am able to go with much more force.
The tree has no real give other than the thin layer of soft inner bark. Works for me though.
