# Bak Mei (White Eyebrow) **URL:** \ **Category:** Southern Chinese Kung Fu\ **Created:** [December 21, 2001, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794 "2001-12-21T15:58:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![red5angel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/red5angel/32/219_2.png) [@red5angel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/red5angel)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2001, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/1 "2001-12-21T15:58:59Z")
Can anyone tell me about this style? Does anyone study or have studied it? I have heard it is similar to Wing Chun? ---
**Author:** ![JWTAYLOR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/jwtaylor/32/25_2.png) [@JWTAYLOR](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/JWTAYLOR)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2001, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/2 "2001-12-21T20:04:23Z")
You should probabbly address this to the forum member by the name of Bak Mei. He will likely be of some help. JWT ---
**Author:** ![Bak\_Mei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@Bak\_Mei](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Bak_Mei)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2001, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/3 "2001-12-21T20:16:30Z")
Actually I have only studied it briefly, not in too much depth. But it is not like Wing Chun. Probably closest to S. Mantis, with a bit of HSing-I forwardness to it in application. I know there is one Sifu in Chinatown, NYC, and I believe reading of a few in Canada here. Sorry, this is an old screen name from days when I was doing reseach on the man. A knew name is in the making, just haven’t put much thought to it. Sorry, have a good one. Ray ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Paul](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2001, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/4 "2001-12-21T20:19:59Z")
I’ve just started studying bak mei/lung ying about a month ago. definately my favorite over any other martial art(s) I have studied. I have seen a little bit of wing chun. I’ve heard that it is similiar to wing chun as well. I think some techniques are similiar. The vertical punch, tan sao and a few other things are I think the same. Bak Mei seems to make pretty heavy use of the phoenix eye and ginger fist (the technique not the dude on this forum) also. which would be different than wing chun. ---
**Author:** ![rubthebuddha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba9def/32.png) [@rubthebuddha](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/rubthebuddha)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2001, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/5 "2001-12-21T20:43:40Z")
paul come on. you know we all want to use ginger fist every now and then, regardless of how we punch. ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Paul](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2001, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/6 "2001-12-21T20:49:54Z")
yeah, every loves a good ginger fist. heh but seriously, do wing chun (ving tsun, wing tsun) guys use that technique? ---
**Author:** ![red5angel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/red5angel/32/219_2.png) [@red5angel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/red5angel)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2001, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/7 "2001-12-21T21:23:49Z")
Ginger fist I dont think we use this in Wing Chun, it is not a familiar term anyway but may be included somewhere in the advanced applications… ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Paul](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2001, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/8 "2001-12-21T21:37:35Z")
ginger fist = leopard fist ---
**Author:** ![ShaolinStyle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@ShaolinStyle](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ShaolinStyle)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/9 "2002-10-01T18:15:30Z")
White eyebrow Does anybdy have any experience with the White Eyebrow style? There is a school in my area that is considering me for enrollment. I’m going for a second visit this Saturday. Another question, I know horse-riding stance, what is mabou stance? ---
**Author:** ![fa\_jing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee7513/32.png) [@fa\_jing](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/fa_jing)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/10 "2002-10-01T18:23:07Z")
It is considering you, or you are considering the school??? And Ma Bu is chinese for horse-riding stance. There are some different variations as to foot placement, level of thighs, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Souljah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/souljah/32/313_2.png) [@Souljah](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Souljah)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 6:29pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/11 "2002-10-01T18:29:26Z")
My friend did Pak mei/white eyebrow when he was younger for a couple of years, he said it was great…! if you just want some info on the style heres a page i looked at when he told me about it [http://www.whiteeyebrowpakmeikungfu.homestead.com/](http://www.whiteeyebrowpakmeikungfu.homestead.com/) ---
**Author:** ![ShaolinStyle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@ShaolinStyle](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ShaolinStyle)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/12 "2002-10-01T18:36:31Z")
The school is considering me. THe school’s sifu is Dr. Wong. His website is [www.dryqwong.com](http://www.dryqwong.com) He teaches traditional Kung Fu as well as Tai Chi and accupressure. It sounds like a great all-around school. I am just unfamiliar with Bak Mei. Cool thing is, it is in Chattanooga too (where I live). ---
**Author:** ![fa\_jing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee7513/32.png) [@fa\_jing](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/fa_jing)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 6:46pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/13 "2002-10-01T18:46:18Z")
Well, studying with any great teacher is certainly a privilege for a student. However, BEWARE OF CONTRACTS ---
**Author:** ![Anon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@Anon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Anon)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/14 "2002-10-01T19:09:02Z")
Did you know..? White eyebrow/ Bak Mei were considered traders in the in the chang dynasty era. They sold out to the goverment and fought to destroy the shoalin temples and the monks, after the fall of the meng dynasty. Just thought I might add this. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Leonidas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/leonidas/32/216_2.png) [@Leonidas](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Leonidas)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/15 "2002-10-01T19:12:21Z")
It goes something like that but I’m thinking that storie is just a myth. ---
**Author:** ![norther\_practitioner](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/norther_practitioner/32/214_2.png) [@norther\_practitioner](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/norther_practitioner)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/16 "2002-10-01T19:14:25Z")
Anyone watch the videos on Dr. Wong’s site? ---
**Author:** ![Chang\_Style\_Novice](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/chang_style_novice/32/110_2.png) [@Chang\_Style\_Novice](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Chang_Style_Novice)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/17 "2002-10-01T19:15:26Z")
Anyway, the Ming Dynasty ended what - about 380 years ago? That’s too long to hold a grudge. As a guy I know in another forum says: “I’m sick to death of witnessing Bronze Age grudges in modern-day Technicolor action!” (He’s talking about Israel and Palestine, but the same principles apply.) ---
**Author:** ![Anon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@Anon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Anon)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/18 "2002-10-01T19:19:22Z")
No grudge here I just thought it was interesting tidbit..thats it. I didnt know this till last week and its fresh on my mind. “Some of this legend can be attributed back to the conflicts between the Taoist and Buddhist beliefs, the political conflicts leading to the end of the Ming Dynasty, the coming of the Manchurians and the destruction of the legendary Southern Shaolin Temple.” ---
**Author:** ![Chang\_Style\_Novice](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/chang_style_novice/32/110_2.png) [@Chang\_Style\_Novice](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Chang_Style_Novice)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/19 "2002-10-01T19:23:51Z")
I don’t know what to say to that except “Oh, OK.” So, without further ado… Oh, OK. ---
**Author:** ![Dercetuas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@Dercetuas](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Dercetuas)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794/20 "2002-10-01T19:26:32Z")
Bak Mei I studied Bak Mei for over a year privately. It is a very powerful system that is both internal and external. The stance training is hard and similar to the training in Southern Praying mantis. (Both use the dragon back and phoenix eye fist) Bak Mei is also related to Lee Gar and Dragon Boxing. [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/bak-mei-white-eyebrow/7794.md?page=2)