No, Our stealing hands is first, followed by the groin strike, then the throw, then everything is the same, except that after the breaking elbow we front kick followed by a backfist and then turn and do it back the same way.
Sounds more like the one you wrote. I know well of that kick in li pi. I got kicked in the head durring a demo and nearly fainted. It was a light kick, but the angle was right.
Your Chi Sho is all palms right? Or do you use fists?
TM Pai AN Duae
TM: Did you learn your version from Shrfu?
I saw the version that SU Yu Chang teaches or taught. Little different than SHrfu’s. Did you also pick up Su’s version?
Seven Hands was also taught with the same beginning as Bung Bu, all the way up to the first Bu Chuay, everything the same after as we first learned.
Send me your present class schedule. Would like for those whom are returning to Taiwan with me to participate in your class when not as Shrfu’s. Hard working group of students that will be joining.
Different Pai-ans
Pong Lai,
Su Yu Zhang has learned several different versions of this 2 man set.
I believe he concentrates on the 8 Step version. When he does it he leaves out the kicks while his students include the kicks.
The mei hwa version has no kicks. They are special in 8 Step and are a reflection of GM Wei’s ditang background most likely.
I have seen the 7 Hands version you mentioned. Shr fu taught it to some students when they were going to do a show.
Stacey,
I didn’t think of a groin strike at that moment, but after reading your post and visualizing it I realized that it makes the throw look like the baji version. A very interesting insight.
In our practice of this throw we have a groin strike as the opponent escapes from the throw.
I learned chi sho all palms.
Earth Dragon
You received the two-person 7 hands set? Did you travel to Tainan, Taiwain, or was this on just a video? And do you make a practice of learning by video? One more question, please tell me that your school doesn`t have a belt ranking system!
Ya shan
Actually it was a fax of a manuscript that tainan mantis was generous enough to allow me to have. I have not learned anything on video although I do have some rare footage that I enjoy watching from time to time.
As far as my school having ranking, we do have colored sashes for the first beginning 4 levels. The intermediate level has 5 silver levels and the the advanced has 5 gold levels and there there are also 5 levels above that for mastery.
Just curious how you came up with that conclusion that we didnt have a ranking system…take care E.D