Are the san sik 12 forms that are in Yuen Kay San Wing Chun the same as in Pien San and Gou Lao Wing Chun ?
What i mean are the 12 san Sik forms of Yuen Kay San that come from Cheung Bo Pien san or Guo Lao Wing Chun ?
Hi,
I think this question was just asked recently? Anyway, no, they are not the same Sik (forms), though, both arts being WCK, there are, of course, similarities. Sum Nung’s Sup Yee Sik are a combination of Cheung Bo’s San Sik system (which descended from Fung Siu-Ching), and Yuen Kay-San’s San Sik (which descended from both Fok Bo-Chuen and Fung Siu-Ching). Cheung Bo had many San Sik (his whole system was San Sik based), and some were similar to Yuen Kay-San’s. There were many variations. Sum Nung, to teach his early students who fought frequently, organized them into a set of 12.
Pien San Gulao, by contrast, represents 12 core sets of 3 moves or 3 sections, Leung Jan taught in Gulao village after he retired. They are closer, IMHO, to the 3 boxing sets (Siu Lien Tao, Chum Kiu, Biu Jee) in content and organization.
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