Aight, what would you have done?

I was in the library workin for my final years in college, and there are these guys makin a bit of noise next to me.

There were like 4 black dudes generally bein racist bout other races n stuff, but i was fine just doin my work. I got up to say something to this dude i know and 1 min later when i got back someone was sittin in my seat so i say (quote) “can i sit down mate?” and he goes “oh yeah sorry” and i go “cheers”

But he forgot to act hard, and so goes, “You coulda asked nicely” and his mates thought it was funny and i thought he was messin around, so i laughed too, and his mates were like “he’s laughin at u!” and i laughed more, thought it was just a big joke and then forgot bout it

Then, walkin home, him n 5 of his mates were behind me, and i had my walkman on, so couldn’t hear much. What i could though, was someone behind me sayin some stuff, shoutin, but didn’t pay much attention to it, didn’t think it was to me.

But then he keeps goin “oi” n cussin n stuffs so i finally hear him n take the headphones off my head, and didn’t recognise him cos a) he was now wearin a hat, and b) cos i never actually looked at him in the 1st place, i was just doin some work.

Anyways after I go “who the f*ck are you” and then remember, he just starts talkin crap bout how I should respect him, and just general fighti talk. He had scrunched up plastic bags in his hands, with something in the bags, and his mate took them off him so his hands were free, so i knew something was gonaa happen, at least that he had fighting in mind. He was standing really close to me - head butting/kneeing in the nads distance from me.

He then had his hands just above his belly, and sort of half pushed/half hit me in the top of the stomach, no harder than u would, say knock on a door. Obviously it didn’t hurt, my abs are strong but it wouldn’t ahve hurt anyone. I was just like “you need to learn some fuckin respect, not me”. Anyways, in the end, when he did sorta hit me i was like “just chill out man”. And we went our separate ways.

What would you have done?

I found it hard to forget, it only happened to day tho, but i was SO mad when i had walked for 2 mins on. I still am mad. Thing is he has LOOOOOADS of mates, who could backed him up etc, let alone the 5 or 6 behind him. I don’t realy have any mates anymore at that college - i only have 2 months there left, and i’ve stopped hanging around with my so called friends, who wouldn’t have helped anyways.

This is a bit wierd for me - i’m not the kinda person who gets started on, i dunno, the way i dress, the way i present my self… i dunno im not saying anyone would fear me or any crap like that, but maybe it’s just I DUNNO!

I am basically saying that i am annoyed that he thinks that i look like the kind of person he can treat like ****. Should i have done anything? Would you have? It’s hard to say, obviously, cos you weren’t there, but it’s made me REALLY mad, i felt like going back with a bloody baseball bat and teaching HIM some respect. But i gotta goto college everyday and run teh risk of seeing him n his crew, and thats why i didn’t do anything - i think???

Edd

posturing

Sharky-

these things happen and people get an overinflated view of themselves for whatever reasons.

It is even moreso evident when there is a group of spectators. Some people are terribly insecure and easily led by the urgings of their compatriots and to bolster their egos they will pick on others. These people are in general pretty weak minded and you probably handled the situation well by just blowing it off and not letting it turn into something that could have been worse, for both of you.

You don’t even know the person so you do not owe him any respects. Respect is earned not given freely.

Obversely, he does not owe you any respect either.
in the end, it is just one of those events that happens to each of us every once in a while that has no meaning in the grand scheme of things.

anyway, peace

Kung Lek

Offer my apologies while keeping my distance, but would probably keep an “unafraid” smile on my face. (though who knows maybe I would be afraid? :wink: )
I wouldn’t let him punch me though…and that might just be a big ego on my part :frowning: Probably is…
If he’s in headbutt distance I’d do just that. But with 5 guys around…I don’t know.

Ryu

judo legend, Masahiko Kimura

sharky - even if you didnt state you were from england i would have recognized that you were - from the slang you are using… YUCK i HATE the accents associated with that slang…typically pike…

lol no offence though…im sure you’d find something for me…

Lordabu

i wouldn’t call it a punch man, just more of a… shove.. that’s the word. but a very light one at that.

but it could have been a punch. do u see my wearyness? i let it get to the stage where he shoved me, and he could have punched me. not being a boxer, i doubt i am good at taking punches (just like the rest of the world) and then it could’ve been game over. y’know?

i let him TOUCH me is my point man. and i feel really angry that i did… I CANT let it go…

Life is no kung fu movie

sharky, you did the right thing.

Keeping your cool was the best thing you could have done because these guys just wanted you to do is retaliate so they all have a “reason” to beat the crap out of you. I mean most of us here are martial artists but we all know that when the odds are against you, why risk your life? Yeah sure I would feel the same as you…but I being a practicing Taoist also, find that keep yourself at peace brings out better situations…you did the right thing!

Peace.

Sharky, being pissed is understandable but being pissed now is a lot better than the alternative of you ending up in the hospital. Realistically, do you think you could have taken on 6 or 7 guys. If it were just 2 or 3, then maybe. Things like this happen and you just have to find a way to vent your anger. All part of the martial arts training for self defense and not fighting.

BAD SITUATION…learn some boxing…then trust me…your training will not allow you to be push or touch…

A

accents

I don’t believe this story…whats with the accent thing…accents are how you pronounce things, not how you spell them…the only way I can “hear” your accent is because you are spelling things in an “accented” way. Standard English is standard English…are you for real? Or do you exist in the world of trolls?

Fu-Pow

“If you are talking about sport that is one thing. But when you are talking about combat-as it is-well then, baby, you’d better train every part of your body” - Bruce Lee

u chattin to me mate?

In the circumstances, i think you did the right thin- although, i’d probably want to keep my distance if i felt that he was going to get violent.(it’s easier to see a punch than a knee to the balls).
I think if it was just one on one i’d do something, but then again i also like to think about the repercussions of things.
One of my friends quite recently rode on his bike into another part of town. A load of kids surrounded him so he pulled a knife out. They backed off, but then the next night, they found his house somehow and came round in a big gang and smashed all his front windows in.

I hate townies!!! Stupid kappa wearing dickheads!!!


Nothing is to be feared, only understood…

Even if it was just him and he didn’t have any friends, you still should’ve kept chill.

If you win a fight, that’s rarely the end of it. You’ve wounded the guys pride, and he’s liable to come back with friends or weapons (you yourself were contemplating the baseball bat appraoch).

You handled that pretty well, I’d say. Don’t let it eat you up.

You did fine. A good MA knows when to walk away and when he has to throw down for war. I know you’re mad but forget these punks. They’re obviously on the fast track to jail or dying in the back of a dark alley with lots of glass on the ground if they keep up this act. Who cares?

The most important thing is you comported yourself exactly like a good MA should. Kudos to you.

K. Mark Hoover

I think you did fine. Just next time do not walk around in public with a walkman on your head. Not only could you not here this gang coming up on you,what if an out of control car came up behind you? Be constantly aware of your environment using ALL of your senses. If you ever see this guy in the library ALONE go sit at the table with him and do’nt say anything/act as though he is’nt there and i’ll bet a paycheck he does’nt say anything to you.g

I think you did fine. Just next time do not walk around in public with a walkman on your head. Not only could you not here this gang coming up on you,what if an out of control car came up behind you? Be constantly aware of your environment using ALL of yo ur senses. If you ever see this guy in the library ALONE go sit at the table with him and do’nt say anything/act as though he is’nt there and i’ll bet a paycheck he does’nt say anything to you.g

you’re right man, wearing a walkman is stupid, but i love my music so :frowning:

yea i will live without from now on i think… thanks

sharky

You handeled it well, keeping your distance would have been better, but live and learn. One thing that you could have done was say that you did not realise you came acrost disrespectful then left. You have two months of school left and you will never see them again. Let it go or it will eat at you and next time you will do something stupid. The only thing hurt was your pride, if you let it keep eating at you, you let him win. If you can let go and move on you have won. It is up to you. :wink:

Do this…start carrying a minature baseball bat with you…if they start something…start swinging…usually peeps don’t mess with others with potential weapons.

A

fu-pow:

if you lived in england, you would understand the kind of slang people use, in different areas. This type of slang is most widely used in suburban london.

people in this area are usually also accustomed to right almost like they speak (i mean we all do), so like i said "i hate accents associated with that slang)…and it IS TYPICALLY PIKE!!

and by the way - unless im living in a different world or do not understand what you mean in this context…what the hell is a troll…do you mean a small slimey creature type troll, or does it have a different meaning here.

Lordabu

Sharky

Hey bud just let it go. It does not matter you are better for not letting it escalate in to something you and he would regret for perhaps a very long time. Now your wasting energy by stewing over it.