# Again
**URL:** https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597
**Category:** Traditional Chinese Medicine
**Created:** [July 9, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597 "2003-07-09T15:50:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@bodhitree](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bodhitree)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/1 "2003-07-09T15:50:44Z")
Hey all
I’m quitting smoking again! I was researching TCM views of quitting smoking. The only thing I found was taking ‘green tiger liver harmony’ to help detox the system. Does anyone have any other advice? Much appreciated!😃
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### Author:  [@bodhitree](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bodhitree)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 12:18pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/2 "2003-07-10T12:18:58Z")
Who to call for help
American Lung Assoc.
1800-586-4572
American Cancer society
1-800-227-2345
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### Author:  [@bodhitree](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bodhitree)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 12:20pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/3 "2003-07-10T12:20:39Z")
[http://www.lungusa.org/tobacco/quit\_ben.html](http://www.lungusa.org/tobacco/quit_ben.html)
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### Author:  [@chen\_zhen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/chen_zhen)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/4 "2003-07-10T12:32:35Z")
how about a thread about quitting wanking?
😛
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### Author:  [@bodhitree](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bodhitree)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 12:34pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/5 "2003-07-10T12:34:21Z")
Dude
I just replaced cigarettes w/ wanking. I’m talking wanking 20 times a day, at the busstop, after meals, just keep on wanking!
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### Author:  [@chen\_zhen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/chen_zhen)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/6 "2003-07-10T13:01:13Z")
That can’t be healthy..
some people eat a lot, some starts wanking apparently, after quitting the f@gs (cigs, I mean)
😃
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### Author:  [@bodhitree](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bodhitree)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/7 "2003-07-10T14:02:06Z")
Dude I was just joking, no wanking. I’m just eating my committ losenges and avoiding things that make me feel like smoking. I got a break from classes right now and I no if I went outside I’d feel like smoking, so I’m in here talking to you. I actually plan on eating healthier now that I’ve quit, lots of fruits, veggies, tea, and water to help detox the system. And of course lots of practice. The lozenges came with a card to put in your wallet that said to name your top reasons for quitting and mine was to perform some longer forms better. If I practice short forms, I can do it with power and speed, but that starts going away after about 40 or 50 movements! NOT ANYMORE!!!🙂 🙂 😃 😛
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### Author:  [@chen\_zhen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/chen_zhen)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/8 "2003-07-10T15:05:06Z")
Good for you.🙂
I bet you’re smokin’ already in the moment I’m writing this..:p:D
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### Author:  [@bodhitree](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bodhitree)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/9 "2003-07-10T16:46:23Z")
not yet you b@$tard
thanks for the support! I’m about to take the bus home, here in downtown theres a lot of smoking temptation, but once I get home it will be much easier!
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### Author:  [@Repulsive\_Monkey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Repulsive_Monkey)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/10 "2003-07-10T17:00:13Z")
Hmmm
How about the Shenmen point in the ear thats the classic point for giving up addictions.
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### Author:  [@bodhitree](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bodhitree)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/11 "2003-07-10T17:02:52Z")
didnt know about it RM, thanks for bringing it to my attention, I’ll lood it up!🆒
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### Author:  [@chen\_zhen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/chen_zhen)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/12 "2003-07-10T18:07:19Z")
How would u use that point? massage it, stick needles in it, whatever?
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### Author:  [@ntc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ntc)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/13 "2003-07-10T21:23:41Z")
ShenMen point normally needs to be needled. A licensed acupuncturist who knows auricular (ear) acupuncture should be able to do this easily, as ShenMen is a very powerful ear point and is frequently used.
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### Author:  [@ZIM](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ZIM)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/14 "2003-07-10T22:17:49Z")
IIRC, shenmen is located so: take your index finger and place it just inside your ear, gently go bakwards [towards the back of your head]. It is located at the join from earlobe to uh..ear. On the cartilage. If you scratch it, it feels kind of funny.. 🙂
I believe that accupuncturistas use a piece of gauze-tape with a pinhead in it to keep it stimulated during the recovery period.
I may be wrong here, so corrections would be most appreciated. Thanks!
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### Author:  [@ntc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ntc)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2003, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/15 "2003-07-10T23:18:42Z")
Zim,
You are correct. Ear-tacs (as they are commonly called) are used as prescription for patients to place on this point. They are used in the same way as thumb tacks are for paper on the wall… the tac is a square about 2.5mm wide with a very fine pointed needle in the center. The tac is placed on the ShenMen point and kept there for a certain duration of time. However, many acupuncturists also frown on using these tacs as they are very prone to causing ear infections.
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### Author:  [@Former\_castleva](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Former_castleva)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/16 "2003-07-11T20:54:38Z")
Certainly.Anytime you feel like smoking,carefully stab yourself with a needle,that should keep it away.
On a more serious note,you MAY want to keep with you some objects that resemble cigarettes.Not saying that they have to but for some,it can be the case of having something to hold&“play with”.Know what I mean?
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### Author:  [@chen\_zhen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/chen_zhen)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2003, 10:40am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/17 "2003-07-12T10:40:03Z")
Maybe that would make more damage than good.. u have to keep away totally from the cigs, not having a substitute.
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### Author:  [@bodhitree](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bodhitree)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2003, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/18 "2003-07-14T12:15:36Z")
Whats up guys
5th day without a cigarette!!! I never got past 3 days, or even to 3 days for that matter. I’ve been using nicotene losenges, doing lots of qigong and practice, and eating lots of high fiber, high antioxident foods, oh and of cource drinking lots of water! It can be done!😃
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### Author:  [@chen\_zhen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/chen_zhen)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2003, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/19 "2003-07-14T14:07:33Z")
congrats.😉
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### Author:  [@bodhitree](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bodhitree)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2003, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/again/21597/20 "2003-07-14T14:43:49Z")
Thank you Chen of no Chen!
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