[QUOTE=pazman;1243341]To put things in perspective, I can set up a full time program for a person in Osaka, Japan which will cost them approximately US$1200 a month, including room, training, food, (and beer and karaoke:D). Tack on an extra $100 dollars if you want to study Japanese language.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but I’m assuming this is group training?
2k US is an insane amount of money for even full time training in China.
For that price I would expect the teacher to pretty much put his whole life on hold, provide banquet dinners regularly and the training would be something like a full time intensive one on ones. I could see it maybe for a single month because you’d have to be living in a hotel rather than renting a flat and you could make it a big event with plenty of tourism in the afternoons after your 4-5 hour morning training sessions.
Shenzen is expensive but, to put it in perspective, I live in Xi’an, not exactly a 1st tier city but we have Starbucks and a subway and about 5 or 6 million people here.
As a westerner working pretty much full time (if only 9 months out of the year) I only make about $800/month. $2000/month USD in Xi’an is more than the entire income of guys I know who own, not rent, 2 or 3 flats in town and drive a western car even though the tarif is something like 100%.
So what I am saying is that $2000/mont in Xi’an is like, factory owner rich guy who sends his kids to America for a year in high school territory.
Just sayin.
Will it be the kind of Shaolin that has no martial application whatsoever taught by a master who obviously doesn’t understand fighting?
[QUOTE=B.Tunks;1243549]Will it be the kind of Shaolin that has no martial application whatsoever taught by a master who obviously doesnt understand fighting?[/QUOTE]
o you are so clever
but on a serious note. my teacher does teach forms and some application,[whether i like the applications of shaolin or not, doesn’t reflect on my teacher’s skills,is my opinion]. But his specialty is iron hand, head and body. which i find can be very useful in a fighting situation’s. he does also teach some simple strikes to go along with the iron hand training. which I feel could **** someone up if you are striking them with a really hard fist. cause this iron hand training is brutal. and my hands do feel like weapons.
Not a chance in hell. You know how many KFC chickens you can buy for that price
If you are happy and are making enough money in shenzhen then go for it. In other cities it’s much cheaper but as someone said it’s hard to make any money in other cities.
this isnt for me, this is an idea i had for people to travel to china and train here, but i guess it really is too much, just testing the waters. i already train with my teacher,for a different rate, i am happy training with him,good teacher good stuff
I’m sure there are foreigners who would pay that much or even more for training with a famous teacher but there should be a marketing plan for attracting them. It’s difficult to say how much the value of something like kungfu is for different people. For “some” Chinese when it comes to real shifu disciple relationship they might even give their shifu a lot more than that without having any obligations. I know someone who bought his shifu an apartment. My own shifu didn’t ask me for a lot of money and has been very good to me in these years. I’m sure I will give him more when I leave China.
you have any clips of your or your masters training?
iron palm is great if you can hit your opponent, but if you cannot hit him or he grapples with you and breaks your arms, it was a waste or training.
i think it is more important to know where and how to strike than just spend hours pounding your hands but that is just me.
[QUOTE=Ben Gash;1243346]Yes, but I’m assuming this is group training?[/QUOTE]
It is, but if you are there for full-time training, you are sure to get lots of one-on-one time with the teaching staff. And in most group training, at least half of the class are yudansha or “black belt level.” Skill is built up through training with and testing yourself against as many different people possible. So instead of getting training with one “master” you get to train with several masters and a large group of advanced practicioners.
Wiz Cool C, does your teacher have the authority to get visas for students?
[QUOTE=18elders;1243635]you have any clips of your or your masters training?
iron palm is great if you can hit your opponent, but if you cannot hit him or he grapples with you and breaks your arms, it was a waste or training.
i think it is more important to know where and how to strike than just spend hours pounding your hands but that is just me.[/QUOTE]
thats part of the training
my teacher also teaches an exercise where you use a fighting stance and footwork and practice practical simple strikes against a special wall striking pad. as well how to use basic strikes against an opponent. so it is not simple pounding of the hands in various ways. along with many other methods of developing power in strikes as well as conditioning the body. best way to understand this would be to pick up a copy of kung fu/tai chi’s current issue,there is an article i wrote about my teachers methods in it.