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Old 01-07-2002, 01:20 PM
Ralek Ralek is offline
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JF Springer backed out!!!!!

we had to change the date to the 19th and he ran away!!!!

I will have to fight apoweyn in his place!!!!!!!! This is an outrage!!!!!
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Old 01-07-2002, 01:23 PM
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careful ralek. you're going to hurt my feelings.
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Old 01-07-2002, 01:46 PM
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I still look forward to fighting you apoweyn. But i prefer to fight kung fu fighters becuase kung fu is what i am trying to destroy.
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Old 01-07-2002, 01:49 PM
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Ralek- is there no end to your shading the truth?
YOU backed out after agreeing to time, place and date.
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Old 01-07-2002, 01:59 PM
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no. I changed the date of the fight becuase i was unavailable for the original time. That's called a "date change". If he doesn't want to fight me anymore becuase of a date change then i guess i will just have to fight apoweyn.

He is on the #1 spot of my list of poeple to fight. And i keep on trying to get him to fight me and am rigourously working my schedule to be able to fight him. I even let him break my fridays only rule. And you call it backing out? I didn't make the decision to have January 12th be unavailble. Higher powers made January 12th unavailable and I am working hard and offering other dates so that the fight may still continue. This is not backing out. It's called making every effort possible so the fight will happen.
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Old 01-07-2002, 01:59 PM
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we had to change the date to the 19th and he ran away!
You had to change the date, not him. You had the fight set up, but you never really take anyone's personal time into your own schedule, so it's not as simple as "we had to change the date to the 19th".

So why can't you guys meet during the week? I'm thinking because JF is possibly too busy actually training. But I can't fathom why Ralek wouldn't be available. I know it's a school night, but it won't take 5-6 hours to take a beating. It can be done in the late afternoon, early evening still.
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Old 01-07-2002, 02:01 PM
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I just don't get how making a date change so the fight will still be possible is considered backing out.

At least apoweyn has the will to fight whether it be the 12th or 19th.
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Old 01-07-2002, 02:07 PM
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Good job apoweyn. You have earned my respect already. I admire your willingness to fight dispite the fact that i'm not free on the 12th. If kung fu people were like you then maybe they would get the chance to beat me in a fight.

Shaolin Tiger has my respect for his willingness to fight. Good job Shaolin Tiger. You are a kung fu hero.

JF Springer. You are free on saturdays. Aren't you? Is the 19th problematic for you? I can work with you on the date. If you can't make a certain date then we will find one you can make. I'm not available on the 12th so please don't make post about me backing out. It is beyond my control.
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Old 01-07-2002, 02:08 PM
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and you have the will only to fight if someone meets your times, dates and comes to your skanky neck of the woods.

so here we have ralek's credo:

I will fight anyone, anytime, anywhere, but only if they come to my ****hole of a home after me making all sorts of rescheduling efforts and the fight doesn't conflict with my newspaper route.
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Old 01-07-2002, 02:20 PM
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Look at it this way

Ralek,
Your date change isn't necessarily "backing out". However, his refusing to fight that day isn't either. Maybe he cannot make it that day. Remember, he agreed to a specific day, not a time frame.

You have to understand something. All the time that I have seen you on this forum, you have seemed to double talk, disrespect, and purposely aggravate other people. Now why should anyone believe that this date change isn't more of the same? Look at it from other people's point of view. You are the one making the challenge. So you should be the one accommodating anyone who accepts it. You set the date. The other person agrees to it, (possibly needing to rearrange their schedule to accommodate) then you change the date.

If it were me, I would refuse the new date as well, if for no other reason then principle. Now regardless if the date change could be or couldn't be helped it is still an aggravation for someone who had already made preparations for the originally agreed date.

If you were more polite and respectful to people, no matter what you think about the art they train, more people would take you seriously.

Just my thoughts
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Old 01-07-2002, 02:34 PM
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TigerDragon. If he doens't want to fight becuase of the date change then that's fine. I'll just fight Apoweyn. (Good job Apoweyn.) And i already said that if he can't make in the 19th then i'll work with him for another date. Springer is the one who wanted the fight to be on saturdays. This has led the the problem of the 12th.

Normally i can only fight on Fridays and this is the reason why. Things like this are the reason i can normally only fight on fridays. But i am going out of my way to find Saturdays that i can fight him and he gets a wedgie because i am not available on the 12th.
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Old 01-07-2002, 03:20 PM
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Tiger Dragon. He is trying to totally break off connection with me. He has blocked my email address from mailing him. You'd think that if he was interested in fighting that he would be working with me to set up another date.
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Old 01-07-2002, 03:24 PM
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as hard as it is to admit, I have to say that it desn't seem to me that Ralek is backing out...arrrgghhhh I said it
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Old 01-07-2002, 03:25 PM
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But do not fear. Dispite the fact that Springer is trying to totally block all communication with me and his unwillingness to try and set up a date that i can fight him, you all will still get to see a fight!!!

And the fight might actually be video taped!!! I'm fighting apoweyn on January 19th!!! Apoweyn has stepped up in place of Springers cowardly absence and attempts to stop rescheduling of the fight. Apoweyn does phillipino martial arts. And maybe if he knows how to put video on the internet you all will get to see the fight.!!!!

Apoweyn is the savior. All is not lost. Apoweyn has saved the day!!!
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Old 01-07-2002, 03:28 PM
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Tiger Dragon. He is trying to totally break off connection with me. He has blocked my email address from mailing him. You'd think that if he was interested in fighting that he would be working with me to set up another date.
I think JF's p!ssed at how you d!cked him around.
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