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Old 02-12-2012, 02:04 AM
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Defense against Upper Cut

In your respective Lineages How do you defend against an upper cut?


Are there any drills, applications from the three forms or san sik techniques that you utilize to defend against Upper cut?

i believe the cutting energy of Bil Sau is best used for Round Punches like Hooks. But what technique is effective against a Uppercut?

Please share your opinion?
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:49 AM
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You can slip it, or even better you can lean back. It's that simple really
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:30 AM
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Punch the guy in the face.
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:06 AM
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:13 AM
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For me im not thinking how to avoid an uppercut at all!! if the fight is on at this range im knocking teeth out until its over

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Old 02-12-2012, 08:43 AM
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jum sao or gan sao with pivoting depending on the hight the uppercut comes at, but you should be attacking him if you're already that close to the opponent.
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:06 AM
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IMO, asking what technique works against 'X' technique is really missing the boat on what WCK is all about.
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one of the reasons for rear weighting is to keep teh head back and reduce vulnerability to upper cuts. In addition if your elbows are in and down an uppercut shouldn't be able to get through, and as stated elsewhere at the range for an uppercut you should be striking.
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IMO, asking what technique works against 'X' technique is really missing the boat on what WCK is all about.
Too bad they dont have thumbs up in this forum. This reply shows that writer gets IT.
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Old 02-12-2012, 01:43 PM
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Wing Chun has an uppercut if that is what you want to call it, but it is not like that used in boxing. The uppercut people usually speak of is a boxing punch that is used to get in under an opponents defenses. The boxing stance begs for it, and it can be fairly useful in that kind of fighting. It is not so effective used that way against a Wing Chun fighter because he will not usually bend down into the punch like a boxer might. It is used by Chunners when fighting boxers and others that use the boxing stance.
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:10 PM
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Punch the guy in the face.
And kick him in the nuts
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Good strategy intercept him via the centerline i like it.

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And kick him in the nuts

No No Lee..im mean defense against an uppercut...not actually applying a Upper cut like from the chum kiu form to split the lip...But actually how does your lineage defend against an uppercut...Like for instance your bridging the gap. As you start striking or attacking your opponent slips a hook and then an uppercut...How do you defend the upper cut coming at you while your attacking. If you just keep striking him and ignore his counter strikes your gonna eat one...Why stand there an trade licks with a boxer. he is bobbing and weaving to get off an uppercut or hook while your attempting to land a strike!

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Wing Chun has an uppercut if that is what you want to call it, but it is not like that used in boxing. The uppercut people usually speak of is a boxing punch that is used to get in under an opponents defenses. The boxing stance begs for it, and it can be fairly useful in that kind of fighting. It is not so effective used that way against a Wing Chun fighter because he will not usually bend down into the punch like a boxer might. It is used by Chunners when fighting boxers and others that use the boxing stance.

I respect your response Ian...But from experience I find Even with your elbows down and in an uppercut can still slip through unless you make a adjustment while your attacking. In fighting your not going to be stand there with your wu sau guards out while the other guy is throwing hooks and crosses at you. You will be attacking...part of WC is attack an defend simultaneously...what im asking is while you are fighting what basic self defense techniques do you practice against an upper cut to minimize your risk as you gain entry!


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one of the reasons for rear weighting is to keep teh head back and reduce vulnerability to upper cuts. In addition if your elbows are in and down an uppercut shouldn't be able to get through, and as stated elsewhere at the range for an uppercut you should be striking.
So JPin what is WC all about?

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IMO, asking what technique works against 'X' technique is really missing the boat on what WCK is all about.
Thanks fighter there only three or four of you who actually give solid view points...i also believe as you do...we share similiar ideas when it comes to defending against an uppercut.

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jum sao or gan sao with pivoting depending on the hight the uppercut comes at, but you should be attacking him if you're already that close to the opponent.
lol..what about a good defensive boxer who is good at countering, weaving and bobbing an rising with an uppercut as gets back into posistion...Usually a boxer aint gonna stand there and let you rain down him teeth knocking fist...what about in sparring...if your fighter is good at throwing fast hooks and deceptive uppercuts. Whats a technique that allows you to defend and attack simultaneously against an uppercut?

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For me im not thinking how to avoid an uppercut at all!! if the fight is on at this range im knocking teeth out until its over

Jim
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:04 AM
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Lift your left knee up, put your hands in a crane position. Jump and kick him in the balls with your right foot.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:25 AM
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Lift your left knee up, put your hands in a crane position. Jump and kick him in the balls with your right foot.
Sounds to complicated and whimsical if you asked me...Why not just jum da down the center!
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